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sawunit
Joined: 06 Oct 2007 Posts: 1
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Posted: Sat Oct 06, 2007 9:34 am Post subject: Radias vs R3 Which Should I buy? |
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Hi this is my first time posting here. I just wanted to know what you guys think.
I was wondering how much better the radias was and whether it is entirely worth the few hundred extra dollars.
Things I am looking for include ability to work with computers and a lot of vocoding. I've worked with fruity loops and I noticed how the pads (I think that's what they are called) are different on each with the radias having sixteen and the r3 having 8. Other than that, are there any other major differences in the two?
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meatballfulton Senior Member
Joined: 20 Jun 2007 Posts: 351
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Posted: Sat Oct 06, 2007 12:24 pm Post subject: |
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A huge difference with the Radias is more voices (24 vs. 8) and 4 timbres per program vs. 2. That means you can have more complex layering in your programs.
The Radias has far more knobs and a larger text display which speeds up programming quite a bit esp. for vocoding. More knobs also means you can control more parameters in your software. The extra octave of keys makes it easier to play two-handed and larger bend and mod wheels are easier to control. If you will be doing external signal processing, the four outputs of the Radias allow you to output each timbre independently and even do surround sound mixes.
The R3 comes with a gooseneck mike and has an XLR mike input. The Radias uses a headset mike and has only 1/4" and 1/8" inputs so you'd need a transformer to use another mike with XLR output.
If none of the above advantages of the Radias apply to your application, then save your money and get the R3. _________________ I sing the body electric |
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khol Junior Member
Joined: 25 Nov 2007 Posts: 90 Location: Stockholm, Sweden
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Posted: Wed Dec 05, 2007 8:12 pm Post subject: |
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Does the RADIAS have more sounds as well ?
And more presets? |
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dr_boehm Full Member
Joined: 28 Jul 2006 Posts: 111 Location: Germany, Bochum
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Posted: Thu Dec 06, 2007 9:33 am Post subject: |
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Hi khol,
as far as i know the radias has samples that the R3 has not. There are some useful rhodes samples, organ samples.... where the r3 has those dwgs waveforms that the radias does not have. When i go to sessions i often only take my radias with me and leave my motif at home. Its got all i need!! Very good synth sounds, some e-pianos, strings, brass, ...., good solo sounds and (of cause) a very usable vocoder.
But the biggest advantage of all is the user interface. If you can afford it anyway buy the radias. All the knobs and the buttons and the display make working with the radias a dream!!
Ciao, Dirk. |
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khol Junior Member
Joined: 25 Nov 2007 Posts: 90 Location: Stockholm, Sweden
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Posted: Thu Dec 06, 2007 9:38 am Post subject: |
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ok, boehm, sound good.
Got a quite reasonable price on the Radias Rack (without he beyboard).
Whats the point with the Radias-keyboard? Is there something special with it or can i buy a controller that i like and use that istead? Or is there some special-radias-features (except that i can slide the Rack) that comes with the radias-keyboard ? |
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klangsulfat Junior Member
Joined: 02 Nov 2007 Posts: 75 Location: Germany
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Posted: Thu Dec 06, 2007 10:20 am Post subject: |
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khol wrote: | Whats the point with the Radias-keyboard? |
It has a great build quality, looks awesome and transforms the module into a real synthesizer |
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acertainpoint Full Member
Joined: 24 Apr 2007 Posts: 121
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Posted: Thu Dec 06, 2007 12:05 pm Post subject: |
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not only does the radias have more presets, but you can also download the presets from the R3, MS2000 and other presets off this site
i have over a thousand presets banked in my radias libary on my computer right now
i would totally save and get the radias. its worth it _________________ radias, emx-1
myspace.com/acertainpoint
myspace.com/secretfungus |
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meatballfulton Senior Member
Joined: 20 Jun 2007 Posts: 351
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Posted: Thu Dec 06, 2007 1:31 pm Post subject: |
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khol wrote: | Is there something special with it or can i buy a controller that i like and use that istead? |
Yes, with the keyboard you can send sequencer and arpeggiator data out the MIDI port to external synthesizers. You can't do that using a MIDI controller with the rack unit. _________________ I sing the body electric |
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dr_boehm Full Member
Joined: 28 Jul 2006 Posts: 111 Location: Germany, Bochum
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Posted: Thu Dec 06, 2007 2:38 pm Post subject: |
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Hi khol again!
I like the keyboard very much. Good feel while playing. Good look of the overall unit. Very good usability when you slide the radias up and reminds me on the mini moog.
But it does not send aftertouch, which is a big drawback for me. The free tablet besides the radias is very useful: You can place small laptops on it or an ash tray or ....
I put a small laptop and a small feeback destroyer on it (for the vocoder for live music).
Ciao, Dirk. |
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botega Senior Member
Joined: 01 May 2007 Posts: 298
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Posted: Thu Dec 06, 2007 3:44 pm Post subject: |
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Quote: | The free tablet besides the radias is very useful: You can place small laptops on it or an ash tray or ....
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dr_boehm Full Member
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Daz Retired
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slammah2012 Senior Member
Joined: 28 Nov 2006 Posts: 374 Location: Canada
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Posted: Fri Dec 07, 2007 4:40 am Post subject: |
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meatballfulton wrote: | khol wrote: | Is there something special with it or can i buy a controller that i like and use that istead? |
Yes, with the keyboard you can send sequencer and arpeggiator data out the MIDI port to external synthesizers. You can't do that using a MIDI controller with the rack unit. |
you can also octave shift using the oct up down buttons and alternate between timbres using the timbre select buttons...and finally, use the radias as 2 ports midi in to your computer.....1 in via midi in, 1 via radias kbd... _________________ Time Can be Mastered,
"NOW" is the Password....
Currently running, Hammond M3, Yamaha CS80 + MM6, Roland JX-3P + Mkb 1000 + Vk7 + D110, Alesis Quadrasynth plus, Haken Continuum fingerboard, Korg Radias + Lambda, Ensoniq SQ80, Waldorf Blofeld, Creamware Prodyssey + B4000, Use Audio Plugiator, Arp Axxe ....and some soft synths. |
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