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NEW PA1X OS - would you pay for it? |
Yes I would pay |
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No I would not pay |
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67% |
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erikfox Junior Member
Joined: 12 Dec 2005 Posts: 54 Location: macedonia
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Posted: Thu Mar 23, 2006 4:13 am Post subject: I would pay,but..... |
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I would pay for an update but only if it is a real brand new os for pa1x with many new improvements like new seq,new sounds,brand new styles(more popular styles than s**t like polka,salsa,rumba blabla....c'mon its 21 century....
regards
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BasariStudios Approved Merchant
Joined: 29 May 2005 Posts: 6510 Location: NYC, USA
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Posted: Thu Mar 23, 2006 9:50 pm Post subject: |
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I wont PAY even if they rebuilt the whole keyboard from scratch, i dont give a r@#s a&&, didnt we already pay KORG for the PA1X o PRO?
So if we did they had to make sure to put everything in there at the first place, if the forgot something we still deserve it for free, since we paid in advance, didnt we???
It is just too stupid to pay for an UPGRADE or UPDATE.
Cuz we already did, 3500 BUCKS! _________________ http://www.basaristudios.com
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karmathanever Platinum Member
Joined: 12 Jan 2004 Posts: 10407
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Posted: Fri Mar 24, 2006 6:49 am Post subject: |
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Quote: | didnt we already pay KORG for the PA1X o PRO? |
Yes we did but we didn't pay for the PA1XPro expecting Korg to supply a whole lot of features it didn't have....!!
Quote: | So if we did they had to make sure to put everything in there at the first place, if the forgot something we still deserve it for free, since we paid in advance, didnt we???
It is just too stupid to pay for an UPGRADE or UPDATE.
Cuz we already did, 3500 BUCKS! |
Interesting comment.. so are you saying that the PA1XPro was already lacking a lot of additional features and was hence overpriced/under-developed/not meeting its advertised specification??
When I bought my PA1XPro it met all (in fact more than..) my expectations (it met all its specifications and some) EXCEPT that its backing sequencer was lacking in its facilities and was a downgrade from the i30 (in my opinion). However, if I had read its full spec I would have been aware of that too.
Maybe the synonymous terms "update" & "upgrade" are confusing the point of this poll.
If I was still enjoying my i30 and Korg had offered the "PA1X features" for it as an OS upgrade, I definitely would have bought it. This is the point of this poll. So I am saying, if Korg offer us an option to add features to the PA1XPro (via software - OS upgrade), would you pay for it, or prefer to get the next model?
Thanks to all for your comments - I think Korg should take note of all of this, after all without us, Korg has a big problem
Cheers
Pete _________________ PA4X-76, Karma, WaveDrum GE, Fantom 8 EX
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MadrasGiaguari Full Member
Joined: 28 Aug 2005 Posts: 200 Location: Italy
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Posted: Fri Mar 24, 2006 1:32 pm Post subject: |
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Dear Pete,
I would definetely pay for an improuved OS. That's the best way to support our ''investment''.
Any additional or improuved feature, or better interface will be very wellcome.
I hope your smart initiative will have some effects on Korg people.
Ciao
Angelo |
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c_hammal Platinum Member
Joined: 25 Mar 2005 Posts: 809 Location: Philadelphia
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Posted: Fri Mar 24, 2006 2:11 pm Post subject: |
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One major reason for not paying is besides that it should be the least Korg should offer to a board this expensive is that even if I can afford paying it, Egypt IS NOT LISTED in anything regarding such services. I cannot even use paypal or any other internet shopping over-seas because we are simply left out of this. So even If I can chose to purchase, I will not be able to benefit from it because I won't have a way to pay for it
I think this is strong enough for me to say NO! _________________ Carol
http://tedxtalks.ted.com/video/Art-Therapy-A-World-Beyond-Crea
Gear:
Korg Kronos 2 88 keys
Alesis Q49 Controller
MacBook Pro Retina 13"
Tascam US-100
Bowers & Wilkins P7 Headphones
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karmathanever Platinum Member
Joined: 12 Jan 2004 Posts: 10407
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Posted: Fri Mar 24, 2006 2:23 pm Post subject: |
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Hi Carol
Quote: | So even If I can chose to purchase, I will not be able to benefit from it because I won't have a way to pay for it |
I wonder how many other people are in that situation regarding payment/services.... Yes, you have a very good reason to say NO...
Thanks for your feedback
(Howz the KARMA-PA1XPRO relationship going? I am still experimenting with my gear... One thing I DO enjoy is being able to play my Karma using PA1XPro as a MIDI controller - yeah - 76-notes!! )
Take care
Pete _________________ PA4X-76, Karma, WaveDrum GE, Fantom 8 EX
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keys Senior Member
Joined: 28 May 2004 Posts: 365 Location: australia
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Posted: Fri Mar 24, 2006 7:24 pm Post subject: |
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you know, at first, i was in the no pay camp, but having read a few more posts, and particularly those from pete, got me thinking about this in a different way...he is correct in saying when we bought it, we bought it for the features it had at that time, very true......operating system glitches should certainly be free updates (if i HAVE to use the MS analogy, its the same as their system updates, BUT when longhorn is released, which is a major upgrade to the overall operating system, it will be a full purchase again...
if korg said "we can a) give you a system with every thing that opens and shuts, every possible feature that we can with this software system at a value of say $300...OR b) put all these things into a new keyboard and then charge another $3500 for the chance to upgrade...well its a "no-brainer" as the yanks would say, you would buy the software upgrade everytime, imho!!!
dennis |
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KorgPlayer Full Member
Joined: 24 Feb 2006 Posts: 194
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Posted: Sat Mar 25, 2006 8:25 am Post subject: I agree that OS updates shall remains free. BUT! |
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I agree that OS updates shall remains free. BUT!
For new features or BIG improvement. For example:
- To add one Master effect for style tracks A+B > Master (Limiter or Compressor)
- To add one master effect for keyboard tracks C+D > Master (Limiter or Compressor)
Why?
Because this gives us the opportunity to properly mix in 3 channels: vocal leads + style tracks + keyboard tracks. This shall result in much more clear sound picture because the ‘peaks’ are ‘killed’. This is especially important to us whom have worked in recording studios because it is important to create the integrity to lead voice(s) (…).
- EQ on style and keyboard tracks: As I described in my previous posts.
I don’t know if there is a hardware possibility’s to do this improvements, but my opinion is that this is the LAST step to go before we can say that PA1X are as close as possible to ultimate sounding machine for live purposes. Even because the Yamaha has included this in their PSR series for many, many years ago…
Just my opinion.
_________________ M1, JV-1080, WaveStationEX, PA1X, MS20, KLC... |
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worth Platinum Member
Joined: 27 Sep 2005 Posts: 1099
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Posted: Sat Mar 25, 2006 9:19 am Post subject: |
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yes i would pay for future upgrades if they were actually upgrades. I dont want to have to keep buying a new keyboard every couple of years. If the OS upgrade can enhance the features,sounds ,functionality of the board then yes i would willingly pay for it. |
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c_hammal Platinum Member
Joined: 25 Mar 2005 Posts: 809 Location: Philadelphia
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Posted: Sun Mar 26, 2006 8:31 am Post subject: |
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karmathanever wrote: | Hi Carol
Quote: | So even If I can chose to purchase, I will not be able to benefit from it because I won't have a way to pay for it |
I wonder how many other people are in that situation regarding payment/services.... Yes, you have a very good reason to say NO...
Thanks for your feedback
(Howz the KARMA-PA1XPRO relationship going? I am still experimenting with my gear... One thing I DO enjoy is being able to play my Karma using PA1XPro as a MIDI controller - yeah - 76-notes!! )
Take care
Pete |
Well well.. it's going great. I'm still not figuring a way to control the Karma via the Pa1x. Maybe you can explain to me how to do it in details cause the manuals suck! Apart of that, I use them together to create nice new age music, enigma-like style by just playing a combi and using both hands to change chords on both boards. Very tough to do that. I wish I could control it via the pa1x while also playing some sounds from the pa1x. I know such a thing should b possible but I'm not finding a way to do it. For now, I'm still in experiment phase too. I'm still not fully capable with the Karma like the Pa1x although the Karma is almost a year old with me now but I'm not finding enough time to work on it seriously.
So any clues??[/url] _________________ Carol
http://tedxtalks.ted.com/video/Art-Therapy-A-World-Beyond-Crea
Gear:
Korg Kronos 2 88 keys
Alesis Q49 Controller
MacBook Pro Retina 13"
Tascam US-100
Bowers & Wilkins P7 Headphones
Audio Technica ATH-M50 Headphones |
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BasariStudios Approved Merchant
Joined: 29 May 2005 Posts: 6510 Location: NYC, USA
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Posted: Sun Mar 26, 2006 4:44 pm Post subject: |
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All i am saying is that if they put an HI TRITON chip into an I30 the PA1X is just PURE GARBAGE, nothing else, nada, zero.
And yes, the PA1X for the money LACKS a lot of the stuf, i mean tonz, its just a BIG downgrade from the I30, i am talking about arranger, not a sampler, forget that, this is not a sampler its an arranger.
Korg wants to put of everything by little into one piece of s**t then screw us all by 3000 dollars.
CHEERZ _________________ http://www.basaristudios.com
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karmathanever Platinum Member
Joined: 12 Jan 2004 Posts: 10407
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Posted: Tue Mar 28, 2006 3:24 pm Post subject: |
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Hi Nedim
You sound very disatisfied with the PA1XPro, however I DO empathize with your love for the i30
Hope you find some peace with your PA1X someday
All the best
Pete _________________ PA4X-76, Karma, WaveDrum GE, Fantom 8 EX
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