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SeedyLee
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 19, 2024 3:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I’m impressed by how Korg have taken 3 products - the ModEave, OpSix and WaveState, and converted them into (checks notes) … 14 different products. It’s especially amazing given that the OpSix and WaveState are really based on the Kronos and OASYS, which was based on the WaveStation and Korg’s VPM synthesis.

So we have the OpSix, OpSix MK2, OpSix SE, OpSix Native, Wavestate, WaveState MK2, WaveState SE, WaveState Native, ModWave, ModWave MK2, ModWave Native, OpSix Module, Wavestate Module, ModWave Module.

Did I get that right?
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 19, 2024 6:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi,

I've not seen any comments on the Grandstage X piano. I think it looks really cool and very futuristic !!

I thought the previous Grandstage was a superb instrument and was surprised it did not get the recognition it deserved. Here is a very good Youtube demo by Luke Edwards.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pOUi4CcRUxo&t=1106s

Chris

p.s. It's not an issue for me as I have the same keybed on my Nautilus 88, but was a bit surprised that they used the RH3 action on the new Grandstage X.
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shefu
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 20, 2024 12:06 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I just don't see the point of keys like grandstage. You could just get a Nautilus 88, and have pretty much the same thing but with more features.
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 20, 2024 12:20 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Grandstage X has a more accessible front panel interface (it's got faders!) compared to a Nautilus and some arranger-ish accompaniment features. Seems overpriced though.
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 20, 2024 7:05 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

So much hype on the forums.

Ooh, look: tumbleweed!
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Soundsgood
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 20, 2024 4:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well, there are also at least one new metronome..

I actually think that the modules make sense, since people already are cutting their opsixes and wavetstates in half.

I would really like to se a virtual miniloge XD. I can't carry all these synths along so the VST versions are great.
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 20, 2024 5:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

From my cynical side:

They figured out that they could sell more widgets to space-constrained people if the widgets are smaller.

From my less cynical side: it dawned on them that what people want are sonic options, but that adding a crummy keyboard isn't making them more desirable to people who already have a nice MIDI controller (whether pads, keys, wind or whatever).
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 20, 2024 7:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

SeedyLee wrote:
I’m impressed by how Korg have taken 3 products - the ModEave, OpSix and WaveState, and converted them into (checks notes) … 14 different products. It’s especially amazing given that the OpSix and WaveState are really based on the Kronos and OASYS, which was based on the WaveStation and Korg’s VPM synthesis.

So we have the OpSix, OpSix MK2, OpSix SE, OpSix Native, Wavestate, WaveState MK2, WaveState SE, WaveState Native, ModWave, ModWave MK2, ModWave Native, OpSix Module, Wavestate Module, ModWave Module.

Did I get that right?


Sounds about right, I think you can get them in VST forms also...
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 20, 2024 8:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

SeedyLee wrote:
I’m impressed by how Korg have taken 3 products - the ModEave, OpSix and WaveState, and converted them into (checks notes) … 14 different products. It’s especially amazing given that the OpSix and WaveState are really based on the Kronos and OASYS, which was based on the WaveStation and Korg’s VPM synthesis.

So we have the OpSix, OpSix MK2, OpSix SE, OpSix Native, Wavestate, WaveState MK2, WaveState SE, WaveState Native, ModWave, ModWave MK2, ModWave Native, OpSix Module, Wavestate Module, ModWave Module.

Did I get that right?


I'm waiting for the Eurorack versions!
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 22, 2024 3:49 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Followed by a Volca Version!
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 22, 2024 1:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Anyone wants a brand new PS-3300 ?

https://synthanatomy.com/2024/01/korg-ps-3300-fs-a-full-scale-reissue-of-the-ultra-rare-poly-analog-synthesizer.html?fbclid=IwAR1r87bttIVO6scDxSUfLTBUlWiVVJS3YsRik3i8bx-rJ1TGgrUj4w8y6SY
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 23, 2024 6:26 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

KK wrote:
Anyone wants a brand new PS-3300 ?

https://synthanatomy.com/2024/01/korg-ps-3300-fs-a-full-scale-reissue-of-the-ultra-rare-poly-analog-synthesizer.html?fbclid=IwAR1r87bttIVO6scDxSUfLTBUlWiVVJS3YsRik3i8bx-rJ1TGgrUj4w8y6SY


I like that!
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BlackForest
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 23, 2024 9:05 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

StephenKay wrote:
KK wrote:
Anyone wants a brand new PS-3300 ?

https://synthanatomy.com/2024/01/korg-ps-3300-fs-a-full-scale-reissue-of-the-ultra-rare-poly-analog-synthesizer.html?fbclid=IwAR1r87bttIVO6scDxSUfLTBUlWiVVJS3YsRik3i8bx-rJ1TGgrUj4w8y6SY


I like that!


@StephenKay, will you recode the Karma software for this PS-3300? Smile

Speaking about the Karma software - are people still buying it?
Ever thought of offering at a substantial discount / freeware it?
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 23, 2024 9:26 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

chelsea4023 wrote:
Hi,

I've not seen any comments on the Grandstage X piano. I think it looks really cool and very futuristic !!

I thought the previous Grandstage was a superb instrument and was surprised it did not get the recognition it deserved. Here is a very good Youtube demo by Luke Edwards.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pOUi4CcRUxo&t=1106s

Chris

p.s. It's not an issue for me as I have the same keybed on my Nautilus 88, but was a bit surprised that they used the RH3 action on the new Grandstage X.


Since the Grandstage is based on the Kronos' sound engines, I wonder if it is built internally on the Kronos as well, meaning a PC with motherboard etc., probably more up to date like the Nautilus's internal hardware?

Because if they have transferred to a Raspery system like the wavestate, we might see an updated Kronos 3 then?
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 23, 2024 9:38 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Pretty sure the Kronos has been put to rest for good. It's cool to see all the products they are dropping, but a part of me wonders why they aren't putting more energy into solid updates to the Pa5x, and working on a high end flagship kronos replacement. I love my Nautilus, but I'd still be very keen on a true flagship workstation.
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