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Bescki Senior Member
Joined: 03 Feb 2007 Posts: 403 Location: Kosova
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Posted: Wed Nov 15, 2023 10:34 am Post subject: Maybe today I will say goodbye to KORG. |
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Today at 17h (EU) yamaha will instroduce Genos 2. I like KORG of course, but I am disappointed with pa5x OS and I was waiting more from KORG new features of new technology, but with many problems more than 18 months.
Anyway, its ok, new OS, some new sounds, more fx, etc, I am disappointed with KORG TEAM, becuase they dont care anymore for us, it looks like one (lazy) person is working to fix OS and solving problems, after 18 months there is not any stable version.
Actually, 1.2 is 0.9 beta version for me. Its still in test mode, and we are testing and reporting bugs to KORG by buying the keyboard for 4300€ and losing a lot of money by reducing gigs.
Today, Yamaha is introducing Genos 2, if 10% I like it more than pa5x, I will buy Genos 2 and say bye to Korg.
I hope Korg will surpise us today last chance _________________ 2022 = Korg PA5x
2015 = Korg Pa4x 76
2007 = Korg Pa800
2004 = Korg Pa1x
2000 = Roland Va-7
1998 = Roland E-86
1996 = Yamaha ?!
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pawlikp100 Platinum Member
Joined: 19 May 2011 Posts: 600 Location: Poland
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pax-eterna.1 Senior Member
Joined: 03 May 2017 Posts: 393
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Posted: Wed Nov 15, 2023 2:15 pm Post subject: |
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I think what would help is if Korg outlined WHAT they were working on for the OS release. Not necessarily a release date, just what will be in it, |
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Bescki Senior Member
Joined: 03 Feb 2007 Posts: 403 Location: Kosova
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Posted: Wed Nov 15, 2023 2:53 pm Post subject: |
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pax-eterna.1 wrote: | I think what would help is if Korg outlined WHAT they were working on for the OS release. Not necessarily a release date, just what will be in it, |
No information from KORG, not at all.... like they are ignoring us. It would be good to have one person from KORG here as a member of forum. _________________ 2022 = Korg PA5x
2015 = Korg Pa4x 76
2007 = Korg Pa800
2004 = Korg Pa1x
2000 = Roland Va-7
1998 = Roland E-86
1996 = Yamaha ?! |
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jozepepa
Joined: 04 Oct 2023 Posts: 5
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Posted: Thu Nov 16, 2023 5:38 am Post subject: |
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After seeing the Genos 2 Demos, do you still want to leave the Pa5x?
not sure... |
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D575 Platinum Member
Joined: 05 Aug 2013 Posts: 1211 Location: UK (Dorset)
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Posted: Thu Nov 16, 2023 6:44 am Post subject: |
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Just to chime in here...
I will repeat my sentiments from a previous thread...
"Genos2 looks to be a very nice keyboard...
Did Genos2 make me want to jump out the back of a Hercules airplane to get to it like the new Montage M8x did? No, not really...
My thoughts...... Korg can breathe a little now, but no resting on one's laurels as their is much work to be done (or has almost been done as December approaches) as a window of opportunity is clearly still open for Korg when I consider Genos2...
I hope Korg don't waste it.
P.s. Will I still try one......of course I will, but I don't need to jump out the back of a Hercules to do so now". _________________ Korg PA5X-76 : Yamaha Montage M8x : Roland Jupiter 80 : Waldorf STVC : Roland Integra 7 : Waldorf Streichfett : Focal Trio6 ST6 : Studio Outboards/RME Audio Interface/A&H SQ Mixer : |
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Asena Approved Merchant
Joined: 03 Mar 2004 Posts: 2574 Location: Sweden/Malmoe
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Posted: Thu Nov 16, 2023 8:21 am Post subject: |
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Genos will have something like NEXT, that’s what I heard from a very YAMAHA guy that knows people behind it!
Also the new montage will have something huge next summer.
About G2, I like it, it’s not bad, what we need is more open system
As korg, and that’s where all just ends.
In korg we are free, in Yamaha we can’t touch it! _________________ www.globalsound.se
KORG PA 5-X/YAMAHA GENOS 2/YAMAHA A 5000
LIONSTRACK X 76 & GROOVE XR
MEDELI AKX-10
MacbookproM2-Ssd/Logic/Neuman/Kali Audio8/Komplette14SDD/ Apollo Twin/PIONEER XDJ RX 2
LOTS OF SAMPLE SOUNDS!
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D575 Platinum Member
Joined: 05 Aug 2013 Posts: 1211 Location: UK (Dorset)
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Posted: Thu Nov 16, 2023 8:50 am Post subject: |
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Asena wrote: |
Also the new montage will have something huge next summer.
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If true? Seems logical these days, then (((( Fantastic )))) Yamaha has a great product with the Montage M series (specifically M8x in my case) _________________ Korg PA5X-76 : Yamaha Montage M8x : Roland Jupiter 80 : Waldorf STVC : Roland Integra 7 : Waldorf Streichfett : Focal Trio6 ST6 : Studio Outboards/RME Audio Interface/A&H SQ Mixer : |
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Danster72 Junior Member
Joined: 09 Jul 2019 Posts: 60
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Posted: Thu Nov 16, 2023 1:20 pm Post subject: |
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jozepepa wrote: | After seeing the Genos 2 Demos, do you still want to leave the Pa5x?
not sure... |
Fully agree. I was not impressed at all. I think people would be making a big mistake. I also have a Genos1, I was contemplating upgrading that but it's going nowhere now. |
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Gunnar J Junior Member
Joined: 06 Mar 2016 Posts: 94 Location: Norway
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Posted: Thu Nov 16, 2023 8:07 pm Post subject: Re: Today, I say goodbye to KORG. |
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Bescki wrote: |
Today, Yamaha is introducing Genos 2, if 10% I like it more than pa5x, I will buy Genos 2 and say bye to Korg.
I hope Korg will surpise us today last chance |
Topic: 'Today, I say goodbye to KORG.'
Today I pulled the plunge and ordered Pa5X-76.
Not because I think G2 is a bad arranger in any way, it's probaly great and the best arranger Yamaha has created till now, also soundwise.
But, my G1 serves me well, and I think the combination G1 & Pa5x will give me new challenges and more value for the money for now.
Later sometime, the G1 may be swapped for a G2 (or G3) ... if i'm still up on the earths surface by then. _________________ Cheers 🥂
GJ
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"Success is not counted by how high you have climbed
but by how many you brought with you." (Wil Rose) |
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Bescki Senior Member
Joined: 03 Feb 2007 Posts: 403 Location: Kosova
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Posted: Thu Nov 16, 2023 8:12 pm Post subject: |
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I am disappointed with pa5x, but there is a hope for updates. But Genos 2 is totally worthless. _________________ 2022 = Korg PA5x
2015 = Korg Pa4x 76
2007 = Korg Pa800
2004 = Korg Pa1x
2000 = Roland Va-7
1998 = Roland E-86
1996 = Yamaha ?! |
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the_boss81 Full Member
Joined: 27 Jan 2011 Posts: 126 Location: Poland
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Posted: Fri Nov 17, 2023 6:45 am Post subject: |
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Let's prove that Korg made the Pa5 almost from the ground up.... Judging only on the basis of a few missing features.... (OK, maybe I would speak differently if I needed them). But you see what Yamaha did - a soft update could make a G1 into a G2. And I don't think a soft updade could do with a Pa4 a Pa5 _________________ Sorry 4 my English - I only speak Polish & German & really like my Pa5X |
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Jimster
Joined: 14 Aug 2023 Posts: 5
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Posted: Thu Nov 23, 2023 12:11 pm Post subject: |
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I'm not impressed much with the new genos 2 after 5 years in the making I have the genos 1 and the korg pa5x quit happy although I really wish korg would sort out the bugs one problem with the korg is one of the midifiles I have the problem is the left hand voice disables when you play the midifile however when you stop the midifile the left hand voice comes back on has any one else encountered this problem |
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tavro
Joined: 29 Apr 2022 Posts: 9 Location: Sydney, Asutralia
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Posted: Fri Nov 24, 2023 4:14 am Post subject: PA4 > PA5 user |
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Dear all,
After a 20 very happy years with Pa1 - Pa4x - easy to use, never any problems - I decided to buy a Pa5X.
Disappointed is too small a word !
I can see what they've tried to do, and in some cases there are improvements. However, there is none of the musicality that blessed the Pa1x pro > Pa4x *.
Nothing has been learned from the previous models, or other manufacturers. Absolutely nothing of compositional value has been added. (eg where are the humanized drums, arpeggiators, swing/deviated gate tempos, instant recording of rh riffs etc). And despite the annoying data change, the styles are the same. And some badly tweeked. The interface has a few small improvements and many annoyances (eg 'hidden options' that can't now be used live, eg the 'keyboard set following the variation' that is a front panel option on Pa4x)
And as for the much touted dual style/song players. Impressive engineering, but I haven't found a musical use for that yet. Nor for the guitar input (it's a keyboard - so wtf?)
So for me, the learning curve has yielded nothing of value, many small and some major time-wasting irritations. (eg a set of manuals that can't be downloaded without a password GRRR! ) And yes it crashes twice a day, and often comes up with blank screens (eg when selecting a new sound).
Anyone wanting an arranger keyboard, buy any of Korg's previous models on ebay, not this turkey.
Tavro
*PS I understand Korg's earlier models were developed in Italy. Currently, a valiant arranger keyboard competitor is Ketron and the Event. Based in Italy. Coincidence? Worth exploring? Probably! However, you have more chance of finding pink unicorn s**t, than a dealer that keeps both in stock. |
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JagiChan Full Member
Joined: 20 Aug 2023 Posts: 119
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Posted: Sun Nov 26, 2023 2:50 pm Post subject: Re: PA4 > PA5 user |
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tavro wrote: | Dear all,
After a 20 very happy years with Pa1 - Pa4x - easy to use, never any problems - I decided to buy a Pa5X.
Disappointed is too small a word !
I can see what they've tried to do, and in some cases there are improvements. However, there is none of the musicality that blessed the Pa1x pro > Pa4x *.
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Anyone wanting an arranger keyboard, buy any of Korg's previous models on ebay, not this turkey.
Tavro
*PS I understand Korg's earlier models were developed in Italy. Currently, a valiant arranger keyboard competitor is Ketron and the Event. Based in Italy. Coincidence? Worth exploring? Probably! However, you have more chance of finding pink unicorn s**t, than a dealer that keeps both in stock. |
Now you have left all of us confused. In the beginning, you say, I'm happy buying the Korg PA5X and then you rant about all the problems; and finally, you conclude with advice to buy a used Korg previous model.
I really did not understand the point you were trying to make here. |
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