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D575
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 Posted: Wed Nov 08, 2023 4:07 am Post subject: Re: Plan for further Update 1.3 ? |
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| AntonySharmman wrote: |
Yes some existing bugs are still present and interface facilities are missing that will be added in December OS upgrade |
@AnothySharmman...
With that knowledge, when you make reference to> "interface facilities are missing that will be added in December"...
Will that include all the "Factory Pad Folders" that are currently missing in the user interface ?
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AntonySharmman
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| Posted: Wed Nov 08, 2023 10:25 am Post subject: |
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Nobody knows details of update , they have a lot of significant things to fix ...
The only sure is that they run out of time !
Concerning missing Factory Pad Folders , why don't you load older OS v1.1 , create a User folder , copy all missing factory Pads
Save them in a KST folder and load them after reloading OS v1.2 ?
Not big deal to be upset if you need them !
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D575
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| Posted: Wed Nov 08, 2023 11:58 am Post subject: |
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| AntonySharmman wrote: | Nobody knows details of update , they have a lot of significant things to fix ...
The only sure is that they run out of time !
Concerning missing Factory Pad Folders , why don't you load older OS v1.1 , create a User folder , copy all missing factory Pads
Save them in a KST folder and load them after reloading OS v1.2 ?
Not big deal to be upset if you need them ! |
OK, thank you, with ref. to paragraph 1...
Regarding the missing "Factory Pad Folders" then that would require a huge amount of work sifting through every style and also difficult to identify with no data to reference considering many categories are missing, not my job and not what I paid for....
As for the comment, "Not big deal to be upset if you need them"
then I respectfully disagree.
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AntonySharmman
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| Posted: Wed Nov 08, 2023 1:24 pm Post subject: |
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Not big deal when you want to create new Pads , not for existing Styles Pad references !
Did you made these Styles in Pa5X and now you have lost references to created Pads and samples of them ?
I had also created some styles in Pa5X with factory Pads while on older OS and all are still there and working !
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D575
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| Posted: Wed Nov 08, 2023 1:46 pm Post subject: |
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| AntonySharmman wrote: | Not big deal when you want to create new Pads , not for existing Styles Pad references !
Did you made these Styles in Pa5X and now you have lost references to created Pads and samples of them ?
I had also created some styles in Pa5X with factory Pads while on older OS and all are still there and working ! |
I think you are missing the point here, this is a topic i have cover many times already...
Ref: MY previous threads...
QUOTE 1>
So before OS 1.1.0 this quickly became apparent that some of the Factory Folders where missing for the main PADS, specifically, FACTORY> Drum and FACTORY> Synth, this was reported to Korg who confirmed my findings and past my report to the Development Team at Korg ...
Although the FACTORY Folders where missing you could still locate the the Drum Sequences and Synth Sequences in the Factory Styles to be used through the main PAD BUTTON, but they where not available to use freely and assign to other Styles as seen previously on Pa3x and Pa4x...
OS 1.1.0. arrived with the much needed stability along with the missing FACTORY> Synth (PAD Folder), BUT.. still missing the FACTORY >Drum (PAD Folder)?...
A further conversation with Korg and my report was again submitted early after OS 1.1.0 to Korg Development Team, (here we go)...BUT still with the release of OS 1.2.0 today, we are missing the FACTORY> Drum (PAD Folders), now considering we are moving in the right direction with OS 1.2.0 I have to say, once again i am dismayed and disappointed with the allusive missing FACTORY> Drum (PAD Folder) with the event of OS 1.2.0, this should not be difficult to rectify and i would considered these to be rudimentary operation for PA keyboard...
We all know the definition of madness, but again, I will phone Korg
who will probably file another report while Italy starts slowing down for their national summer shutdown...
Am I frustrated?...YOU BET.
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So... We have established there are many PAD Sequences across numerous categories which are scattered throughout the PA5X Factory Styles which are still missing important Factory PAD Folders, which means at present the PA5X PAD folder section is unfortunately incomplete and crippled (in part) when compared to Pa3x and Pa4x for example...
Interestingly, Korg reinstated one of the missing folders (SYNTH) with the first update, but again failed to realise they are still missing other category folders, which I find very odd considering Korg have been informed many times by multiple informants (from day one) and I incude the Korg forum STICKYS and Thread's over this issue...
Even stranger to me, Korg then added many more New PADs with the recent and long awaited OS 1.2.0. update, but again, Korg are still unable to correct this on-going issue...((((( WHY KORG ))))) ?
And on top of this, to you Korg... you fail to communicate and acknowledge through your representatives in my country, after time and effort have been applied on my part, where you fail in your own diligence...
Korg feel free to PM me on the Korg Forum and give some glimmer of hope you are going to rectify this over-site at some point, because my formal approach appears to be only one way over the past 12 months, where your representatives in my country also appear to be very much in the dark over this particular matter ?
NOTE>
Also, to add to the above information, I believe there are other Factory Pad Folders Categories (Sequence loops) missing and not included, with the highlighted ones in my threads.
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AntonySharmman
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| Posted: Wed Nov 08, 2023 4:31 pm Post subject: |
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My question was clear , did you ever seen factory folders that you claim that are missing for the main PADS , in older OS v1.1 ?
The fact that those resources were in Pa4X has no meaning for me , this is Pa5X with the same older samples but with new main resources ,
so sytem would assign older samples with converted older styles , but Pa5X main PAD sound library resources can be totally different !
If they just forgot to include OS v1.1 PAD resources in newer v1.2 they will certainly fix it the upcoming update , if not , don't bet about it.
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D575
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| Posted: Wed Nov 08, 2023 6:30 pm Post subject: |
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| AntonySharmman wrote: | My question was clear , did you ever seen factory folders that you claim that are missing for the main PADS , in older OS v1.1 ?
The fact that those resources were in Pa4X has no meaning for me , this is Pa5X with the same older samples but with new main resources ,
so sytem would assign older samples with converted older styles , but Pa5X main PAD sound library resources can be totally different !
If they just forgot to include OS v1.1 PAD resources in newer v1.2 they will certainly fix it the upcoming update , if not , don't bet about it. |
They have been missing from day one AntonySharmman...
PA4X is relevant, not that i am making a reference to the old resource so much, but more the fact that every Factory Pad Folder in PA4X are organised and present, and that any of Factory Pads to be found in the Factory Styles can be found in the Factory Pad Folders....
Unfortunately this is most certainly not the case with PA5X...
I think i have been clear about the present predicament and time frames in my posts, where the Korg development team management appear to missing in action over this particular matter...
Importantly, this has all been confirmed and crossed referenced with Korg Uk, (A) with a sales director, and (B) a Korg product specialist at the time of contact...
But, I do have to pick you up AntonySharmman, on a Contradiction, at first you have NO idea what this new update in December will comprise or fix, then in a second breath you say "they will certainly fix it the upcoming update"...
A little contradictory, don't you think AntonySharmman?
What is clear..You seem to be dismissive of what I am saying. So in this instance, we're all wasting each other's time here... have a nice day 
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AntonySharmman
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| Posted: Wed Nov 08, 2023 7:03 pm Post subject: |
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If those PADs never existed in Pa5X , then I have nothing to add ... case is obvious !
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D575
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| Posted: Wed Nov 08, 2023 7:16 pm Post subject: |
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| AntonySharmman wrote: | | If those PADs never existed in Pa5X , then I have nothing to add ... case is obvious ! |
But the Pads exist in some of the PA5X Factory Styles with no reference of then in the Factory Pad Folders...
You really are not trying understanding my post are you...
The case is obvious, a case of Cognitive Dissonance on your part AntonySharmman...
But of course you are going to have the last illogical say, carry on.
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| Posted: Wed Nov 08, 2023 9:39 pm Post subject: |
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| D575 wrote: |
So... We have established there are many PAD Sequences across numerous categories which are scattered throughout the PA5X Factory Styles which are still missing important Factory PAD Folders, which means at present the PA5X PAD folder section is unfortunately incomplete and crippled (in part) when compared to Pa3x and Pa4x for example...
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this has been the case in older PaX models too, you can use pads and keyboard sets that aren't in the factory folders. If you look at the keyboard sets at the styles you will discover lots of new keyboard sets that aren't in the factory sets, same applies to the pads.
What I did was adding the Pa4X Pads to the Pa5x, that took me only a few minutes and that way I have the complete set again with hundreds of pads including the drum and extra synth pads.
I did the same for the pa4X keyboard sets, I also imported those in the pa5x.
Since it's so easy to do, I don't really understand why you don't do that, it will take you longer to type the posts you do in the several threads and it will solve your main issues for now. |
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| Posted: Wed Nov 08, 2023 10:17 pm Post subject: |
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| QuiRobinez wrote: | ......What I did was adding the Pa4X Pads to the Pa5x, that took me only a few minutes and that way I have the complete set again with hundreds of pads including the drum and extra synth pads.
I did the same for the pa4X keyboard sets, I also imported those in the pa5x.....
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Qui, is there a resource somewhere I can d/l those PA4 pads? I have no PA4 data available to me. |
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| Posted: Wed Nov 08, 2023 10:24 pm Post subject: |
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| pax-eterna.1 wrote: | | QuiRobinez wrote: | ......What I did was adding the Pa4X Pads to the Pa5x, that took me only a few minutes and that way I have the complete set again with hundreds of pads including the drum and extra synth pads.
I did the same for the pa4X keyboard sets, I also imported those in the pa5x.....
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Qui, is there a resource somewhere I can d/l those PA4 pads? I have no PA4 data available to me. |
yes, on this forum, 2nd post in this thread
http://www.korgforums.com/forum/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=129891
just convert it to a ksc file and then load the pads and keyboard sets from that KSC set, they will be added to the user area of pads and keyboard sets then. |
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| Posted: Wed Nov 08, 2023 11:22 pm Post subject: |
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| QuiRobinez wrote: |
this has been the case in older PaX models too, you can use pads and keyboard sets that aren't in the factory folders.
If you look at the keyboard sets at the styles you will discover lots of new keyboard sets that aren't in the factory sets
same applies to the pads. |
This is the obvious that I wrote Qui ...
I thought that he was talking about PADs that existed in previous Pa5X OS and now they are not present in OS v1.2 ...
Wasting of writing time from my part , but I misunderstood case , and case is obvious here as in Pa2/3/4X , you will never
see older PaSeries factory resources in Pa5X in any OS update , only newer ones that Pa sound developers will decide !
Only by the fact that all Pa3X/4X factory samples are included in Pa5X , older converted Styles will preserve those PADs
& KBD SET that do not exist anymore in Pa5X Factory banks as outdated compared to new stereo resources and also
the fact that some Pa5X factory Styles might contain some of those old resources is because Style creators just converted
older Styles and felt boring to update PADs & KBD SETs resources to newer ones.
I also begun to feel bored of grimling haters of Pa5X , that will worship it at the beginning of 2024 when all will be implemented
and will be further developed , as the flagship arranger in the market that showed its power to experts since 2022.
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pax-eterna.1
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| Posted: Thu Nov 09, 2023 12:13 am Post subject: |
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| QuiRobinez wrote: | | pax-eterna.1 wrote: | | QuiRobinez wrote: | ......What I did was adding the Pa4X Pads to the Pa5x, that took me only a few minutes and that way I have the complete set again with hundreds of pads including the drum and extra synth pads.
I did the same for the pa4X keyboard sets, I also imported those in the pa5x.....
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Qui, is there a resource somewhere I can d/l those PA4 pads? I have no PA4 data available to me. |
yes, on this forum, 2nd post in this thread
http://www.korgforums.com/forum/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=129891
just convert it to a ksc file and then load the pads and keyboard sets from that KSC set, they will be added to the user area of pads and keyboard sets then. |
Thanks - yes I had downloaded all 42 of the styles, but did not realise the Pads were included in those. I will revisit them. |
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pax-eterna.1
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| Posted: Thu Nov 09, 2023 2:53 am Post subject: |
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I really do hope that Korg, in December (if that turns out to be accurate) finally release the Songbook Editor for the PA5...it's been a while since release...
IIRC, for the 4 and all earlier models, the editor was released concurrently. |
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