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ChrisDuncan Senior Member
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Posted: Wed Aug 30, 2023 8:26 pm Post subject: Disable Kronos global MIDI channel for external output? |
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I'm controlling a Fantom with the Kronos, and overall things are going well. However, the Fantom is essentially always in what Roland used to call "performance mode," where it's listening on all 16 channels.
The Kronos is set to midi channel 1. When I play the Kronos, the Fantom's zone 1 plays (if I set the Kronos midi channel to 12, the the Fantom zone 12 plays).
I was trying to set up a combi so that I could control which channel I was talking to on the Fantom, and that works. I set it to EXT and channel 4, and zone 4 plays on the Fantom. But zone 1 (the Kronos midi channel) also plays. If I get out of combi and just pull up, say, a Kronos piano, I get the Kronos and the Fantom zone 1 patch.
I can set the Kronos to 16 to make life easier on the Fantom (start working on zone 1 and work my way down). However, the only solution I've come up with thus far is that I'd have to turn off zone 16 on every scene in the Fantom.
This isn't a huge thing to work around, but I'm wondering if there's any way to keep the Kronos midi channel from transmitting if you're in a combi and that channel is muted. That's the behavior I would have expected, but it doesn't seem to match reality.
Any thoughts? _________________ Studio: Cubase 13 | Windows 10 | Yamaha TF5 | Mackie MCU | CMC AI, QC
Keyboard Station: Kronos 2 88 | Fantom 7 | JV 2080 | Cubase 13 | Windows 10 | Focusrite 18i20 | CMC TP
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ronnfigg Platinum Member
Joined: 26 Mar 2011 Posts: 2141 Location: CA
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Posted: Mon Sep 25, 2023 10:04 pm Post subject: Re: Disable Kronos global MIDI channel for external output? |
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ChrisDuncan wrote: | I'm controlling a Fantom with the Kronos, and overall things are going well. However, the Fantom is essentially always in what Roland used to call "performance mode," where it's listening on all 16 channels.
The Kronos is set to midi channel 1. When I play the Kronos, the Fantom's zone 1 plays (if I set the Kronos midi channel to 12, the the Fantom zone 12 plays).
I was trying to set up a combi so that I could control which channel I was talking to on the Fantom, and that works. I set it to EXT and channel 4, and zone 4 plays on the Fantom. But zone 1 (the Kronos midi channel) also plays. If I get out of combi and just pull up, say, a Kronos piano, I get the Kronos and the Fantom zone 1 patch.
I can set the Kronos to 16 to make life easier on the Fantom (start working on zone 1 and work my way down). However, the only solution I've come up with thus far is that I'd have to turn off zone 16 on every scene in the Fantom.
This isn't a huge thing to work around, but I'm wondering if there's any way to keep the Kronos midi channel from transmitting if you're in a combi and that channel is muted. That's the behavior I would have expected, but it doesn't seem to match reality.
Any thoughts? |
Try this:
In your Combi go to the "MIDI/Filter Zones Tab -> Keyboard Zones. Select the Timbre that the Kronos is using to talk to the Fantom. Set the Top and Bottom Key to C-1. That should do it. Be Sure to "Write" the Combi. _________________ "To me the synthesizer was always a source of new sounds that musicians could use to expand the range of possibilities for making music."
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ChrisDuncan Senior Member
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Posted: Tue Sep 26, 2023 1:40 am Post subject: Re: Disable Kronos global MIDI channel for external output? |
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ronnfigg wrote: | Try this:
In your Combi go to the "MIDI/Filter Zones Tab -> Keyboard Zones. Select the Timbre that the Kronos is using to talk to the Fantom. Set the Top and Bottom Key to C-1. That should do it. Be Sure to "Write" the Combi. |
I'll give this a try.
Thanks, man! _________________ Studio: Cubase 13 | Windows 10 | Yamaha TF5 | Mackie MCU | CMC AI, QC
Keyboard Station: Kronos 2 88 | Fantom 7 | JV 2080 | Cubase 13 | Windows 10 | Focusrite 18i20 | CMC TP
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Chris Duncan
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geoelectro Platinum Member
Joined: 14 Sep 2012 Posts: 1038 Location: Texas
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Posted: Tue Sep 26, 2023 12:35 pm Post subject: |
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The Kronos always transmits the Global channel. I set my global to ch16 and use the lower channels without having the global channel show up when not wanted.
Geo _________________ Kronos 61 : 3GB RAM 120GB 2nd Drv.
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ChrisDuncan Senior Member
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Posted: Thu Sep 28, 2023 9:26 pm Post subject: |
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Hey, guys.
I tried Ron's idea, but as Geo said it transmits the global channel (16 in my case) regardless of other settings. It is what it is.
I created a template scene on the Fantom that has channel 16 muted. Since I start everything from my base template, that keeps it automatic so I don't have to remember to keep muting the channel.
All gear has it's quirks, it's just a matter of finding the right workaround. In my case I won't feel the loss of 1 channel on the Fantom, so mischief managed.
Thanks again for all the help, much appreciated. _________________ Studio: Cubase 13 | Windows 10 | Yamaha TF5 | Mackie MCU | CMC AI, QC
Keyboard Station: Kronos 2 88 | Fantom 7 | JV 2080 | Cubase 13 | Windows 10 | Focusrite 18i20 | CMC TP
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