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[Koekepan]

McHale: I tend to agree with your buddy.

That said, for studio work my pick would be the Akai Professional Force. It's designed to create a whole, rendered track. For performance, something like the MPC One, or Roland Fantom should be fine. They're different use cases, which were always awkwardly married in KORG's product line.

But yeah, KORG has pretty much given up. The real answer to the original question in the thread's topic is: nothing from KORG.

[McHale]

I don't think they've given up. I am curious though if they can make enough money doing the $90 controllers and cheap keyboards to keep the lights on. Maybe they don't make enough profit from flagships like the Kronos to make it worth their while. When you look at the actual sales figures for game changers like the M1 and the Triton, it's way lower than I expected. And that goes for any keyboard by any manufacturer, not just Korg. So when you figure in R&D, marketing, etc. maybe there's just a lot more profit selling twice or three times as many "small ticket" items with much less R&D. This isn't an area I can't even pretend to know what I'm talking about though. Just wondering out loud.

But where DO you go from the Kronos? Seriously. I bought mine in 2011 and there's nothing on the market today in 2022 that interests me. So Korg's "failure" (if you can call it that) was putting out something so awesome and finding difficulty upping their game I suppose. Kind of a weird situation. Sooner or later, everybody that wanted a Kronos bought one and the Nautilus is picking up the people who couldn't afford it.

My big issue right now is hardware failure with unavailable parts. It's changed my thinking going forward. My m50 which I've lugged around several times a week since 2008 has a bad board in it. I can't find a replacement. My Triton Pro only boots up about 1/2 the time. My Kronos has had the motherboard fail, the power supply fail and is currently working but sooner or later another part will fail and it will be in the parts bin. So for me, it's software synths from here on out. I can always buy a new computer or a new audio interface or a keyboard controller.

One thing to note is I've heard there is a massive disconnect between Korg Japan and Korg USA and that's causing some issues. Korg USA and Korg Japan develop products, sometimes together and sometimes independently. I remember an old post from Jerry Kovarsky about some of the stuff that was solely from Korg USA. So if Korg Japan and Korg USA are butting heads, that could be the problem. Again, just spit balling here, I have no credible info. It's all rumor mill.

That reminds me, does anybody know how JerryTheK is doing? I haven't seen nor heard from him in a few years. I will always owe a lot of credit and gratitude to him for how he took care of me over the years... and I'm just an internet shmuck. I'm not even one of those "internet influencers" you hear so much about these days.
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Current Korg Gear: KRONOS 88 (4GB), M50-73 (PS mod), RADIAS-73, Electribe MX, Triton Pro (MOSS, SCSI, CF, 64MB RAM), SQ-64, DVP-1, MEX-8000, MR-1, KAOSSilator, nanoKey, nanoKontrol, 3x nanoPad 2, 3x DS1H, 7x PS1, FC7 (yes Korg, NOT Yamaha).

[Narioso]

[Koekepan]

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[Koekepan]

[mrgl]

Yours is a workaround, which is fine but inconvenient. This says about me that I like the tools I choose to be helpful. As it's implemented right now, it does not support time signatures in a helpful way.

The UI of the piano roll shows every fourth beat with a different shade, for example. The built in metronome ticks every fourth as well.

[shefu]

I love new keyboards & synths as much as anyone, but honestly why would we need a replacement for Kronos, or any other "main synth" that we each use? You can literally put any sounds into Kronos, you can literally make any sound on it.

I'm still rocking my Jupiter 80, Yamaha An1x, and new Nautilus like it's day 1. If anything new and exciting comes along, cool, IF NOT, that's okay too.
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[maphill]

For me I'm using my Fantom 6 instead of my Kronos most of the time. That's largely because for my live performance situation the control surface, the ability to play backing tracks and a couple other things meets the needs better. I really like the sliders with indicators and the rotary encoders with indicators.

It has some pretty good sounds, but it can't do everything a Kronos can. And for studio recordings and synth-y music I will fire up the Kronos.

Regardless, what I predict and hope is that Korg is perfecting their new engines (WaveState, etc.) with the standalone keyboards and then will combine them all in a new workstation. Hopefully with the control surface upgrades inspired by the PA5X and the Fantom and more.

Name it Poseidon and emphasize "flow" or Zeus and have fancy lighting. Don't care... but if it has a solid set of controls and an a easier to follow UI with all of the latest engines crammed in there.... Well, shut up and take my money!

P.S. Hyperion and Eos might also make good names...
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Korg KRONOS 73, Trinity Pro, Monotron,
Roland FA-06 and Fantom 6, Roland TDK-15
Big Knob, Sonar (Previously, OASYS 76)

[KK]

Nothing can replace a Kronos. I realize it every time I play it.

[afr]

[nitecrawler]

[bpoodoo]

[drama1]

Correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't the PA5X strictly a sample playback synth? There's no CX3 or any of the other engines in the Kronos/Nautilus. I fear the Nautilus IS the Korg flagship, which for me simply does not cut it for live performance. They chopped way too many RT controls.