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korgpask Senior Member
Joined: 15 Aug 2013 Posts: 351
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Posted: Wed Aug 17, 2022 2:45 am Post subject: The KORG Pa5X is not a continuation of the Pa4X !!! |
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The KORG Pa5X is not a continuation of the Pa4X !!!
Hi, I don't want to be mean, but this message solved many things. This sentence.
"It should be noted that KORG has developed a new Pa5X instrument and this instrument is not a continuation of the Pa4X model.
Therefore, do not look for the functions that Pa4X has in Pa5X !!!
Boot creator ....
chord detection from midi ....
internal HDD - ssd ...
adaptive microphone setup....
and many more...
KORG decided not to put it there.
Therefore, those who hope that the Pa5X will have everything that the Pa4X had, just wait to see if that will be the case.
I personally don't want such a Pa5X even for free. I can't use it to do what I need to compose, compose, produce, rework, edit, ....
Unreliability of micro SD.
my transition to Pa5X will only be ! if KORG adds to the Pa5X all the functions that the Pa4X has !!! otherwise not...
to wait almost half a year to solve the little things is unthinkable!!!
very slow responses from KORG are in this condition of the Pa5X SCARY, UNACCEPTABLE for me.
The next OS update is due in DECEMBER ??
until then what???
I'm waiting for Pa6X
So Pa5X is NOT a sequel to Pa4X ..... |
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karmathanever Platinum Member
Joined: 12 Jan 2004 Posts: 10402
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Posted: Wed Aug 17, 2022 3:10 am Post subject: |
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korgpask wrote: | The KORG Pa5X is not a continuation of the Pa4X !!!
Hi, I don't want to be mean, but this message solved many things. This sentence.
"It should be noted that KORG has developed a new Pa5X instrument and this instrument is not a continuation of the Pa4X model.
Therefore, do not look for the functions that Pa4X has in Pa5X !!! |
It "solves" absolutely nothing but merely adds to the confusion although it would solve a lot of things for Korg as they would not need to change anything - just leave it as is.
You say "...I don't want to be mean...." so I gather then that YOU ARE KORG? (of course you're not!! I wish you were!!)
Again and again and again and again I ask - where does all this type of information come from?
So many conflicting rumours which no-one will confirm or justify.
Next update in September, er, no, November, er no, December, er no early next year
Distributors saying they have not heard about any problems.
Missing features are actually there, just not implemented yet (so the above quoted rumour kills this rumour!!! )
I think we've put up with enough rumours to last a lifetime.
For me, if it's not in "Korg News" then it doesn't exist and it's a waste of energy speculating.
All these rumours are pushing me further and further away..... and I'm beginning to feel quite concerned for those who have already purchased it.
korgpask wrote: | I'm waiting for Pa6X |
Might put my order in now - should arrive at about the same time as my personal telegram from the King
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@ korgpask
Completely empathise with your comments - this whole thing is very frustrating... _________________ PA4X-76, Karma, WaveDrum GE, Fantom 8 EX
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Sam CA Platinum Member
Joined: 02 May 2008 Posts: 3990 Location: Los Angeles
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Posted: Wed Aug 17, 2022 4:32 am Post subject: |
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I have the same question as Pete's .
Where does this quote come from? Because even the name of the instrument boldly suggests the Pa5x is very much so the next generation of the Pa4x and that entire line. Now if they called it Korg KIWI 2000, then you could argue this is a brand new instrument that's got nothing to do with the rest. Just like the workstation series. _________________ Sam
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karmathanever Platinum Member
Joined: 12 Jan 2004 Posts: 10402
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Posted: Wed Aug 17, 2022 5:58 am Post subject: |
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Aha!! The Korg KIWI 2000 - obviously designed and built not that far from me
As this news is coming from you, SAM, it is definitely not a rumour.... I'm excited!!
_________________ PA4X-76, Karma, WaveDrum GE, Fantom 8 EX
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AntonySharmman Approved Merchant
Joined: 16 Oct 2010 Posts: 3598 Location: Hellas
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Posted: Wed Aug 17, 2022 10:22 am Post subject: |
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Do not worry for new Pa5X owners , they will be soon rewarded for their purchase
and the whole mislead speculation information will be vanished ...
All published highlights will soon work flawlessly and all will revise your reviews , so be patient
don't waste your time and enjoy your current Pa4X until the moment you will upgrade it. _________________ Music Conductor - Sound Engineer & Developer - Automotive SMPS/RF R&D - Electronics Engineer
PaSeries Demos - WavesArt.eu - KorgPa.gr <> Facebook
Keyboards : Steinway-D, Kronos X, Pa5X 76, Pa4X 76, Montage M7 , Roland-XV88, Emu3,Emax II,Synclavier II,Yamaha DX Series, ΟΒ-8V |
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D575 Platinum Member
Joined: 05 Aug 2013 Posts: 1199 Location: UK (Dorset)
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Posted: Wed Aug 17, 2022 12:21 pm Post subject: |
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AntonySharmman wrote: | Do not worry for new Pa5X owners , they will be soon rewarded for their purchase
and the whole mislead speculation information will be vanished ...
All published highlights will soon work flawlessly and all will revise your reviews , so be patient
don't waste your time and enjoy your current Pa4X until the moment you will upgrade it. |
Come on Antony surely you can do better than that? with out source and details this could easily be seen as a dismissive, inflammatory and some what arrogant response...
But... i am sure you did not mean it to sound that way??...
So perhaps you could revise and fill in the important missing details for us here ??? _________________ Korg PA5X-76 : Yamaha Montage M8x : Roland Jupiter 80 : Waldorf STVC : Roland Integra 7 : Waldorf Streichfett : Focal Trio6 ST6 : Studio Outboards/RME Audio Interface/A&H SQ Mixer : |
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AntonySharmman Approved Merchant
Joined: 16 Oct 2010 Posts: 3598 Location: Hellas
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Posted: Wed Aug 17, 2022 1:08 pm Post subject: |
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Nope , but all haters can do it better , all you will see working after official OS release (since this is a beta one) , are written there
http://www.korgforums.com/forum/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=127306 _________________ Music Conductor - Sound Engineer & Developer - Automotive SMPS/RF R&D - Electronics Engineer
PaSeries Demos - WavesArt.eu - KorgPa.gr <> Facebook
Keyboards : Steinway-D, Kronos X, Pa5X 76, Pa4X 76, Montage M7 , Roland-XV88, Emu3,Emax II,Synclavier II,Yamaha DX Series, ΟΒ-8V |
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MikeVVught Junior Member
Joined: 10 Apr 2016 Posts: 65
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Posted: Wed Aug 17, 2022 1:36 pm Post subject: Re: The KORG Pa5X is not a continuation of the Pa4X !!! |
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korgpask wrote: | The KORG Pa5X is not a continuation of the Pa4X !!!
Hi, I don't want to be mean, but this message solved many things. This sentence.
"It should be noted that KORG has developed a new Pa5X instrument and this instrument is not a continuation of the Pa4X model. |
For hardware, yes it is. Look at https://www.elmarherz.de/alfred-2.htm#2. No significant changes.
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Therefore, do not look for the functions that Pa4X has in Pa5X !!!
Boot creator ....
chord detection from midi ....
internal HDD - ssd ...
adaptive microphone setup....
and many more...
KORG decided not to put it there. |
I don't know where you get your information from. When you read the announcement Korg wrote prior to the introduction of the Pa5X it should be working already in the Pa5X. It is not, but maybe better it is still not. It is not known what shall be implemented in next update. Korg doesn't tell anything about that.
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I'm waiting for Pa6X
So Pa5X is NOT a sequel to Pa4X ..... |
In short: I disagree with you... _________________ Pa4X Musikant 61-keys
Yamaha AW1600 Digital 16-track recorder |
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D575 Platinum Member
Joined: 05 Aug 2013 Posts: 1199 Location: UK (Dorset)
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Posted: Wed Aug 17, 2022 1:40 pm Post subject: |
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Anthony are you a Official Representatives for Korg now ?
If you are saying "since this is a beta one" have i then purchased a New Pa5X with a BETA Operating System ??
And your comment "but all the haters can do better" who are you specifically directing this at please ??? _________________ Korg PA5X-76 : Yamaha Montage M8x : Roland Jupiter 80 : Waldorf STVC : Roland Integra 7 : Waldorf Streichfett : Focal Trio6 ST6 : Studio Outboards/RME Audio Interface/A&H SQ Mixer :
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thomasteele Full Member
Joined: 27 Jun 2007 Posts: 236
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Posted: Wed Aug 17, 2022 2:48 pm Post subject: |
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I hope it can convert the styles i have made from pa4x ,at the moment it takes over an hour to import and not all of the styles in favourites nor user samples cannot be loaded so you have to load the full set . I do not like the hard drive system so far |
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AntonySharmman Approved Merchant
Joined: 16 Oct 2010 Posts: 3598 Location: Hellas
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Posted: Wed Aug 17, 2022 5:59 pm Post subject: |
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Thomas , follow instructions of http://www.korgforums.com/forum/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=127577
For the rest divert your complaints to Korg Japan management that obviously forced Italian department
to release an arranger with unfinished OS ! _________________ Music Conductor - Sound Engineer & Developer - Automotive SMPS/RF R&D - Electronics Engineer
PaSeries Demos - WavesArt.eu - KorgPa.gr <> Facebook
Keyboards : Steinway-D, Kronos X, Pa5X 76, Pa4X 76, Montage M7 , Roland-XV88, Emu3,Emax II,Synclavier II,Yamaha DX Series, ΟΒ-8V |
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iOpus Full Member
Joined: 26 Nov 2008 Posts: 108 Location: МКД
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Posted: Wed Aug 17, 2022 6:05 pm Post subject: |
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I think it is unnecessary to discuss such topics - he heard, he didn't hear. We need to realize that when we bought Pa5x and saw the mess we are in, we are now going to play the dance that follows for the next extended period. Learn how to survive this period as easily as possible.
I see on YouTube some guys playing songs with the new Pa5x and enjoying themselves. They also recorded the same songs with the previous keyboards. One man explains how to make a simple style on a PA5x (kids 20 years ago on a PA80 did that) but doesn't mention that there is no quantizer in the style edit section.
The first testers (they are the most guilty for me) advertised themselves on youtube and did a great job on Korg, we like a blind man for a stick
If they do nothing, we should know that this is also possible. If they had keyboards wich hanging around stores they wouldn't be ignoring us like this. A cat ate their tongue (Korg team), it's called in my place
If someone laughs at you with Pa4x, don't get angry, they were smarter, right Pete?
Keep smiling and wait. _________________ Korg X3
Korg Pa80
Korg PA800
Korg M3
Korg PA3X 61
Korg PA4x 61
Korg PA5x 61 Musician, computer scientist and electronic engineer
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Sam CA Platinum Member
Joined: 02 May 2008 Posts: 3990 Location: Los Angeles
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Posted: Wed Aug 17, 2022 6:40 pm Post subject: |
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karmathanever wrote: | Aha!! The Korg KIWI 2000 - obviously designed and built not that far from me
As this news is coming from you, SAM, it is definitely not a rumour.... I'm excited!!
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Damn it! I violated my NDA again! I might as well come clean guys. Remember that backyard barbeque Pa5x video? That was me. _________________ Sam
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kbrkr Platinum Member
Joined: 06 Oct 2003 Posts: 804 Location: Savannah, Georgia USA
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Posted: Wed Aug 17, 2022 7:39 pm Post subject: |
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Let's all count 1 -> 2 -> 3 -> 4 ->???
I think a 5 is the next number as compared to
Tyros 3 -> Tyros 4 -> Tyros 5 -| Genos = New Generation _________________ Pa5x, Yamaha Genos, ForeScore |
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D575 Platinum Member
Joined: 05 Aug 2013 Posts: 1199 Location: UK (Dorset)
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Posted: Wed Aug 17, 2022 7:58 pm Post subject: |
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Forgive me but why would I continue divert to korg who only tiptoe round the issues and when you are clearly taking the lead on the behalf of Korg round here...
So it is only logical that I respond to your comments or are you missing some Key Fundamental Points when considering this debacle which Korg has created when you make your remarks ? _________________ Korg PA5X-76 : Yamaha Montage M8x : Roland Jupiter 80 : Waldorf STVC : Roland Integra 7 : Waldorf Streichfett : Focal Trio6 ST6 : Studio Outboards/RME Audio Interface/A&H SQ Mixer : |
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