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Chuck Senior Member
Joined: 28 Sep 2004 Posts: 488 Location: Ohio, USA
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Posted: Thu Apr 14, 2022 3:36 pm Post subject: Korg |
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After reviewing the several comments about whether Korg is still in business or not, here is what I did to find out.
I tried to order a Korg 1000 and could not find any outlet in the U.S. that had one in stock, all were on back order and have been that way for about a year.
I then sent a note to Korg USA with this question, "Is Korg no longer in the "Arranger" business?" I made sure they read my message by checking the "read" option. I did get a note back telling me the message had been read but I never received an answer to my question. So I contacted my dealer in Connecticut and he also confirmed Arrangers from Korg are no longer available.
Not trying to sound the alarm bell, I think all of us are thinking the same. Wish I had better news. Thanks for listening.
Chuck
Ohio, USA _________________ PA4X & PA900
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pawlikp100 Platinum Member
Joined: 19 May 2011 Posts: 599 Location: Poland
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Posted: Thu Apr 14, 2022 6:22 pm Post subject: |
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Korg doesn't contact with it]s customers. But if there is a contact, it works only in one direction (information are left on the main korg.com webpage).
Next thing: photos and short footage from the beginning of 2022, presenting pa5x in early stage what proves that in the nearlest future next TOTL arranger will be available.
If korg pa1000/pa700 had been discontinued, you would know it.
In my opinion, distributors sometimes have less information or knowladge about future products then we have what is confirmed based on my own experience. _________________ Korg pa5x vs Genos 2 - spec comparison |
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D575 Platinum Member
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Posted: Fri Apr 15, 2022 5:09 am Post subject: |
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Demand for Electronic Components is very high and there are shortfalls globally... we know this is due to the pandemic and global lockdowns which there are multiple reasons for this shortfall and this is most likely going to continue throughout 2022...this is affect manufacturing and I don't think it is unreasonable to consider that Korg are any different.... also to compound this on going problem with global supply of electronic components https://www.reuters.com/technology/exclusive-ukraine-halts-half-worlds-neon-output-chips-clouding-outlook-2022-03-11/
I believe if you are waiting for a current/new Korg product then patience is going to be required in light of all the difficulties companies like Korg are facing at the moment. |
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usaraiya Senior Member
Joined: 17 Sep 2010 Posts: 254 Location: USA
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Posted: Fri Apr 15, 2022 12:10 pm Post subject: |
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A word from Korg would be most reassuring to improve the declining morale of the troops!
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Asena Approved Merchant
Joined: 03 Mar 2004 Posts: 2550 Location: Sweden/Malmoe
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Posted: Sat Apr 16, 2022 1:33 am Post subject: |
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Well If there is NO So Called Electronic parts avaible because the Pandemic, War, and more, How can a Smal Company make new keyboard like MEDELI?
How can my new car have all features in it?
How can IPHONE COME OUT with 4 new models, How come that MAC M1 M2 and Studio is out?
How can ROLAND make new things, How can Yamaha make new Keyboards like the A 5000 and more?
How can Universal audio, or Native or New PC,s Laptops come with new models?
For me , i do not get that...
How can all other companies give information But NOT KORG?
And how can a company stays alive IF they dont care about the Customers???
WHY HOW WHEN IF?
Well not good. _________________ www.globalsound.se
KORG PA 5-X/YAMAHA GENOS 2/YAMAHA A 5000
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MEDELI AKX-10
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D575 Platinum Member
Joined: 05 Aug 2013 Posts: 1197 Location: UK (Dorset)
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Posted: Sat Apr 16, 2022 4:40 am Post subject: |
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Asena wrote: | Well If there is NO So Called Electronic parts avaible because the Pandemic, War, and more, How can a Smal Company make new keyboard like MEDELI?
How can my new car have all features in it?
How can IPHONE COME OUT with 4 new models, How come that MAC M1 M2 and Studio is out?
How can ROLAND make new things, How can Yamaha make new Keyboards like the A 5000 and more?
How can Universal audio, or Native or New PC,s Laptops come with new models?
For me , i do not get that...
How can all other companies give information But NOT KORG?
And how can a company stays alive IF they dont care about the Customers???
WHY HOW WHEN IF?
Well not good. |
https://www.fitchratings.com/research/corporate-finance/global-chip-shortage-to-ease-in-2h22-improvement-will-not-be-linear-07-02-2022
https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/techwireasia.com/amp/2022/02/two-years-later-are-we-finally-reaching-the-end-of-a-global-chip-shortage/
https://azpianonews.blogspot.com/2020/10/digital-piano-ordering-shipping-warning-report.html?m=1
https://www.musicradar.com/news/behringer-synth-drum-machine-chip-shortages
https://www.gartner.com/en/articles/what-s-ahead-for-semiconductor-shortages
https://www.sourcengine.com/blog/electronic-component-shortages-update
Quote: Well If there is NO So Called Electronic parts
To the above Quote... I did not say there are NO electronic parts available....I used the word "shortfall" which would imply there are supply's but not in the amounts to satisfy demand, which would answer your question why some companies are still producing products but some are not... understand this is a complex problem and how companies managing this we can only speculate according to the information we have. |
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Biggles Platinum Member
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Posted: Sat Apr 16, 2022 7:45 am Post subject: |
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D575 wrote: | Demand for Electronic Components is very high and there are shortfalls globally... we know this is due to the pandemic and global lockdowns which there are multiple reasons for this shortfall and this is most likely going to continue throughout 2022...this is affect manufacturing and I don't think it is unreasonable to consider that Korg are any different.... also to compound this on going problem with global supply of electronic components https://www.reuters.com/technology/exclusive-ukraine-halts-half-worlds-neon-output-chips-clouding-outlook-2022-03-11/
I believe if you are waiting for a current/new Korg product then patience is going to be required in light of all the difficulties companies like Korg are facing at the moment. |
I waited three years for a decent upgrade to the OS of my 700, but got fed up of waiting and sold it.
18 months later still no update has been issued.
Exactly the same has happened with the 1000, nothing.
There is no way global shortages will possibly affect the development and release of updates. In fact the lack of production is just the time to develop and release just such systems.
Pre Covid they released or updated 7 synths, added a DP and released the Nautilus. Since then models like the Kronos and Grandstage have been archived.
Roland do not seem to have any issue with components, with their new Fantom 0 selling like hot cakes. If they can develop and release new kit then Korg can.
PC World / Curry’s do not seem to have shortages of products that are reliant upon electronic components.
Lack of Press releases shows Korg do not care about their customers. I looked at the Korg UK Facebook page a month ago and it was over two years since they posted anything about a Pa, their Webinars have dried up, their Pa website has minimal content. Not looking good. _________________ Biggles
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siebenhirter Platinum Member
Joined: 13 Oct 2011 Posts: 1843
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Posted: Sat Apr 16, 2022 8:11 am Post subject: No information about OS update for Pa1000/700 |
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Hello,
it is understandable that shortfalls in production causes complex problems.
Korg Support Germany answered my question regarding availability of the Pa1000 as follows:
The KORG Pa models 700 and 1000 are still relevant and will continue to be available for sale.
However, due to the current situation, production is delayed. We expect the next deliveries in May and June.
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If these models are still supposed to be relevant, I still don't understand why the OS update for this midrange model, which has been overdue for three years, has still not been delivered.
I find it annoying that no information about this is to get from Korg. _________________ kind regards
- siebenhirter, austria -
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D575 Platinum Member
Joined: 05 Aug 2013 Posts: 1197 Location: UK (Dorset)
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Posted: Sat Apr 16, 2022 8:29 am Post subject: |
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Biggles wrote: | D575 wrote: | Demand for Electronic Components is very high and there are shortfalls globally... we know this is due to the pandemic and global lockdowns which there are multiple reasons for this shortfall and this is most likely going to continue throughout 2022...this is affect manufacturing and I don't think it is unreasonable to consider that Korg are any different.... also to compound this on going problem with global supply of electronic components https://www.reuters.com/technology/exclusive-ukraine-halts-half-worlds-neon-output-chips-clouding-outlook-2022-03-11/
I believe if you are waiting for a current/new Korg product then patience is going to be required in light of all the difficulties companies like Korg are facing at the moment. |
I waited three years for a decent upgrade to the OS of my 700, but got fed up of waiting and sold it.
18 months later still no update has been issued.
Exactly the same has happened with the 1000, nothing.
There is no way global shortages will possibly affect the development and release of updates. In fact the lack of production is just the time to develop and release just such systems.
Pre Covid they released or updated 7 synths, added a DP and released the Nautilus. Since then models like the Kronos and Grandstage have been archived.
Roland do not seem to have any issue with components, with their new Fantom 0 selling like hot cakes. If they can develop and release new kit then Korg can.
PC World / Curry’s do not seem to have shortages of products that are reliant upon electronic components.
Lack of Press releases shows Korg do not care about their customers. I looked at the Korg UK Facebook page a month ago and it was over two years since they posted anything about a Pa, their Webinars have dried up, their Pa website has minimal content. Not looking good. |
I don't think software developments is in question here that is a separate issue and how Korg or Roland have prioritised there production to component availability I would not know, but maybe what we are seeing is there thought method and product priority at this moment in time... as for korg and how they conduct any public relations then I am not going to concern myself with that here and again that is also a separate issue... I can only hope that we are not seeing the end of the PA series keyboard range and I only offer a possible explanation using a little logic and speculation why we may not be seeing any anticipated new PA models at this time considering the much covered Press concerning Global Chip Shortages, which is all any of us can do and this may offer a reasonable reason why there are maybe delays or time table changes with new model releases, and in this case give some thought to how korg are perhaps prioritising and navigating their way through this well known problem.... nothing more, nothing less, and in doing so to offer a little light relief where there is much frustration which is evident on this forum and in these threads.... So I am hopeful we will soon (maybe this year) see or here some news for a PA4X replacement and then we may also see the trickle-down formula in a new product range for the PA line-up that generally comes from a New Flagship Keyboard. |
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Chuck Senior Member
Joined: 28 Sep 2004 Posts: 488 Location: Ohio, USA
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Posted: Mon Apr 18, 2022 3:47 pm Post subject: I contacted Korg USA |
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After reading all the responses it seems everyone has a different approach as to why Korg is not responding. I was able to get a hold of a real live person at Korg USA who tried to explain why it's been over a year since they have made any Korg Arrangers. His main answer was lack of parts and people to work these issues. He never admitted that Korg is out of the Arranger business but was unwilling to provide an estimate when things would be back to normal. My take away from our conversation is that we will not see an Arranger from Korg in the near future if ever.
Chuck
Ohio, USA _________________ PA4X & PA900
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D575 Platinum Member
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Posted: Mon Apr 18, 2022 4:51 pm Post subject: Re: I contacted Korg USA |
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Chuck wrote: | After reading all the responses it seems everyone has a different approach as to why Korg is not responding. I was able to get a hold of a real live person at Korg USA who tried to explain why it's been over a year since they have made any Korg Arrangers. His main answer was lack of parts and people to work these issues. He never admitted that Korg is out of the Arranger business but was unwilling to provide an estimate when things would be back to normal. My take away from our conversation is that we will not see an Arranger from Korg in the near future if ever.
Chuck
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I think this image (link below) from a previous post contradicts korg are out of the arrange business... but nevertheless there has definitely been issues with electronic supplies (something in my industry we have been very aware of) but a little research on Google will show that there is some heavyweight activity to try and resolve this... I am hopeful at some point maybe this year we will have some news.
https://scontent.fskg1-2.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t39.30808-6/278580378_5178514608882072_5374957150583427752_n.jpg?_nc_cat=105&ccb=1-5&_nc_sid=8bfeb9&_nc_ohc=tdssEOWt5dMAX_vVtrx&_nc_ht=scontent.fskg1-2.fna&oh=00_AT80-aKc6mZluH2h_lWZ4sdy_YaVpej5I-7PbX-I_nZPtA&oe=625FB020 |
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MikeVVught Junior Member
Joined: 10 Apr 2016 Posts: 65
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Posted: Tue Apr 19, 2022 6:40 am Post subject: Re: I contacted Korg USA |
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This link no longer works...
Do you mean this piucture: https://tinyurl.com/3vwj6ckw? _________________ Pa4X Musikant 61-keys
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D575 Platinum Member
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Posted: Tue Apr 19, 2022 8:15 am Post subject: Re: I contacted Korg USA |
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Odd, the link I copied still works for me (from android phone) but yes your link is the same image I am making reference. |
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Biggles Platinum Member
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Posted: Tue Apr 19, 2022 10:41 am Post subject: |
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Korg Nautilus
Yamaha DGX 670
Korg XE20
Korg LP 380U
Roland Fantom 0 series
Yamaha SX 600
Medeli AKX 10
Just a few of the new keyboards released in the last two years.
Looking at the Facebook Roland 0 series and the happy buyers with their brand new keyboards they have had no problem in buying them.
If Roland can develop, manufacture and release a new product why are Korg having problems?
Just where is the component shortage, Roland have it right? _________________ Biggles
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