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H.I.M · Joined: 30 May 2021 Posts: 37 Location: San Diego Ca

Looks like the PA4X might be on the way out
I just picked up a new one for $2900
The next one would have to be phenomenal to beat that price/performance level

Asena · Posted: Sat Dec 11, 2021 12:15 am Post subject:

Well, I think like when they announced the OASYS a was BLOWN AWAY, Stil the best looking unit with the best things on it, So after so long time Maybe Just Maybe we can have a dream workstation.

I,m just dreaming Wink

But , in the same time after having so much from KORG i think this time, KORG cant be behind.
Time will tell, I CANT Smile

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Korghelper · Platinum Member Joined: 26 Jul 2017 Posts: 584

I think we are still confusing a product like a workstation or an arranger with the underlying engine inside it. There were considerable differences between the triton and the PA line of arrangers. But the hardware under the hood of the arranger had a LOT in common.

But the aspects that are being criticized in the Kronos are software design issues, not a product of the underlying engine. If the arranger design team want to change slider behavior, or change the appearance of the font size of the GUI, there’s no reason why they can’t.

It’s like taking a Corvette engine and dropping it into a new chassis. You don’t have to use the Corvette’s cup holders or dash!

Yes, there might be a newer CPU in the PA1000, but it certainly didn’t translate into more insert effects, or significantly faster response, or anything really noticeable. I rather doubt that CPU in a PA5X is going to translate to a tripling of effect processor power, or true modeled analog synth behavior, or any of the truly significant improvements in the Nautilus’ basic engine.

Don’t assume that minor design gaffes in the workstation line will automatically come over with the engine. The first Triton based PA series arranger was a VERY different experience to the user that the first Triton.

There is, however, ONE aspect of the Nautilus hardware/software that could use a significant reworking… It turns out, the number of supported basic sample ID’s is virtually the same as the PA4X’s. So the use of sliced drum and percussion loops is still going to be the same issue. Perhaps faster loading mitigates the problem, I’m not familiar with the sample load times of the Kronos/Nautilus compared to the PA4X (karma?), or whether there’s a high quality time and pitch transposition engine in the Naurilus that might make slicing moot, but it seems to me that upping the index number bit depth (the more bits, the more addresses) would allow loop slicing to become a more practical live tool.

Most arrangers have been tacked onto an existing hardware package from another line. Roland based the early G series (G1000, G800 etc.) on the Sound Canvas products. Later G and E series were based around the Fantom engine (G70, E80 etc), Korg have used the Triton engine for a long time. But they have a significantly better engine ready to go. Had it for ten years. And dropping a bit more powerful CPU into the old Triton framework isn’t going to help much, IMHO.

You can’t turn an in-line six into a V8, no matter how hard you work on the crankshaft! Come on, Korg… give us the V8!

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Rob Sherratt · Platinum Member Joined: 16 Apr 2007 Posts: 4590

I have just ordered a new Pa4x 76 Oriental, replacing my earlier Pa4x which was "lost in the post". I spoke with my supplier - Thomann (Germany) about the Pa4x supply situation - and Korg are currently manufacturing a new batch of PA4x keyboards which will be delivered by Korg to European suppliers in January.

They knew nothing about the Pa4x being end of line, quite the opposite.

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ckobu · Junior Member Joined: 27 Feb 2019 Posts: 61

fake or original pa5x

https://app.box.com/s/vmzalaaux9c19qena32w5pkjbl5jireh
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pawlikp100 · Posted: Wed Dec 29, 2021 9:15 pm Post subject:

Nice foto. Let me put it directly to the post message.

where did you find it?
It covers with with the photo of the front panel, shared here some time ago.
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Asena · Posted: Wed Dec 29, 2021 9:39 pm Post subject:

Its NOT FAKE!
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ckobu · Junior Member Joined: 27 Feb 2019 Posts: 61

Asena · Posted: Wed Dec 29, 2021 10:36 pm Post subject:

Well You said all Wink

Some more info, Better Sampler, And New OPOS! much better FX, and superb New thinking sequenser functions token from DAW s. Faster CPU, etc etc.
only time will tell.
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bpoodoo · Posted: Wed Dec 29, 2021 11:19 pm Post subject:

Well, now we know what happened to all the buttons, pads, and sliders missing on the Nautilus!
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karmathanever · Platinum Member Joined: 12 Jan 2004 Posts: 10404

Any chance of a clear picture and some information regarding its source??
Rumour pictures were and are always impossible to see clearly.
It looks like a picture from a brochure and edited as such - can't understand why it wouldn't be clearer - you can't even see the logo clearly.
There are some issues with that picture but could only be confirmed if it was clearer.

Far from convincing for me.... none of the pre-release "rumours" since the i30 have been accurate/genuine so far.
Maybe this one is, but let's have a real picture with information for once and a reliable source reference....

Right now - it is just another rumour. I would love to be convinced otherwise!!

Very Happy

Oh!! What happened to this:-
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7MPjGbxxvMA
AND THIS:-
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZCk8nkPO_n4
ROFL

Using these clips I could re-word my original OP question:-
"W-PA2021 vs PA5X"
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ckobu · Junior Member Joined: 27 Feb 2019 Posts: 61

I cannot (I have no authority) to show more than this, and it is up to you to doubt or believe. Wink

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