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Nemik
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 09, 2021 12:56 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

you gonna hate me for neew ones, I got message for you !!!
you don,t even try, or ... if you you thing newer version make you better, you way wrong!!!
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 09, 2021 10:50 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

SAM!!!!

What do you mean "a joke!!!" - I have already spent my money and reserved a metal frame....
Oh and your video link looks amazing - I love the transparent touch screen and that Korg have stopped printing those stupid little words all over the keyboard .....

Need...... Beer
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 09, 2021 9:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

karmathanever wrote:
SAM!!!!

What do you mean "a joke!!!" - I have already spent my money and reserved a metal frame....
Oh and your video link looks amazing - I love the transparent touch screen and that Korg have stopped printing those stupid little words all over the keyboard .....

Need...... Beer



ROFL

Yeah that video is pretty convincing. I could definitely use a beer too!
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 10, 2021 4:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Nemik wrote:
you gonna hate me for neew ones, I got message for you !!!
you don,t even try, or ... if you you thing newer version make you better, you way wrong!!!


Maybe people just want new toys to play around with?

I don’t think buying a new keyboard for me is about sounding better, its more about the fantastic voyage of discovering all those new features, and trying to find a way to use them..
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 12, 2021 3:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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I don’t think buying a new keyboard for me is about sounding better


For me, its almost certain that newer models sound worse then previous.

AI2 synths sounded fantastic, HI great and punchy, then EDS came... a flat dull sound where you need to adjust equalizer to make it somewhat nice.

I have to admit though that pa4x/700/1000 sound better than pa3x/600/900, by far.
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 14, 2021 10:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I saw the metal frame pictures and laughed. Anyone who has disassembled a Korg keyboard knows that the chassis is plastic inside. Metal trim exoskeleton pieces are added for marketing purposes.
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 15, 2021 7:56 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Rob Sherratt wrote:
I saw the metal frame pictures and laughed. Anyone who has disassembled a Korg keyboard knows that the chassis is plastic inside. Metal trim exoskeleton pieces are added for marketing purposes.


Nobody said that presented metal frame was internalone.
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 27, 2022 8:57 pm    Post subject: korg pa5x photos Reply with quote

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PostPosted: Sat Apr 30, 2022 7:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi Friends:

I am dissapointed with Korg, it seems that there is no more to offer.
If those photos published with the 16 pads are true, Korg make a poor copy of Roland FA, a poor copy of Genos with its multyline display under sliders and RGB switches, and the worst, sliders are "mini sliders".-
What most of us expects is a arranger workstation, with a synth engine inside, better midi editor, and SSD similar to Kronos.-
It seems it will be an expensive toy.-
By the way, if Korg support is allways in silent mode why are censured lots of videos or photos about PA5x ????
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PostPosted: Sun May 01, 2022 1:37 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hadn't noticed the mini-sliders!!!

If this latest photo is the real deal:-
They've copied the Genos with the row of buttons with displays.
The Mini-sliders would be better placed nearer the keys like Genos.
The Mini-sliders are a big negative - like the Casio MZ-X500!!!! SLIDERS NEED DISTANCE to travel!!!
Pads don't excite me at all - they just chew up more control surface space - maybe 8, not 16.
Yes, getting very Roland FA like which caused me to sell mine - mainly the multifunction controls - inconvenient when playing live.

We're getting anxious about this photo which, of course could be (and hopefully is) fake but it looks like way too much stuffed onto the control surface.
Arrangers, in particular, have always been performer keyboards and not workstations. Trying to combine the two is a nightmare for the player when there are too many multi-function buttons and sliders.

Korg should just replace (upgrade) the PA4X OS/CPU/RAM/STORAGE, add WiFi and offer a couple of new colours Wink - I am really so hoping these rumour pictures are not genuinely the big new upgrade!!!

Time will tell (if I live that long).

Pete Very Happy
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PostPosted: Sun May 01, 2022 7:33 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sliders aren't shorter as it may seem
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PostPosted: Sun May 01, 2022 10:26 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

You seem to have knowledge........

....comparing slider positioning in the picture with my PA4X, they are definitely shorter....
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PostPosted: Sun May 01, 2022 12:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

karmathanever wrote:
You seem to have knowledge........

....comparing slider positioning in the picture with my PA4X, they are definitely shorter....


Look at the photo comparing matrix of pa4x and pa5x. Check here
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PostPosted: Sun May 01, 2022 2:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

OK, maybe you're right but I was comparing the photo - hard to tell.

If I carry on trying to figure out the blurred photo then...
    No "Bass Inversion" button (this is a Yamaha absent feature)
    I can't see modes selection
    Vocal Harmony controls
    Start/Stop style play buttons
    Fade in/out buttons
    Tap Tempo and tempo controls (metronome) might be there - too blurred
    Style bank select buttons
    Style/Sound balance control

Oh there's more but I'm sure you're sick of it....
As this is all guesswork, it seems Korg may have stuffed controls into the OS display - terrible downside with Genos.
...or the display row with corresponding buttons ???
(So far, this hype and speculation is making me love my PA4X even more..... Wink )

OK, so we still really don't know any details and so far no-one has official information or will admit sources of the rumours.
"They" say it will be with us next month.

Can't wait to get my hands on the manual.

P Very Happy
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PostPosted: Sun May 01, 2022 5:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

karmathanever wrote:
...Arrangers, in particular, have always been performer keyboards and not workstations. Trying to combine the two is a nightmare for the player when there are too many multi-function buttons and sliders....

Pete Very Happy
+1, agreed.
It's like expecting to add some aircraft or helicopter features (ex; flying...Very Happy ) in a car (that is design for regular transport on the ground).
Personally I don't mind to have some good synth engine, VSTs in an arranger on the condition that it does not make a nightmare (as Pete mentioned) for the player.
I think the development and improvement of an arranger should stay first on the way where a live keyboard performer use it.
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