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tomto66 Senior Member
Joined: 26 Jan 2015 Posts: 336 Location: Belgium
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Posted: Wed Nov 06, 2019 6:44 pm Post subject: How to restore after swapping motherboard batteries |
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Hi, I need to replace the batteries on my motherboard. Would I be correct to state that the backup/restore procedure would be:
1. Do a save all
2. After battery replacement, load the PCG file
And that's it? I'm assuming that everything will stay where it was on disk, so no need to re-load all of that, right?
I'm also assuming that once loaded, the PCG data will stay in memory - no changes to be made to any preload settings, correct?
If not correct, then what/where/how?
Tx for a reaction! _________________ Kronos X-88, Nanopad2, Tascam US122 MKii, Roli Rise 49 |
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Falcon2e Platinum Member
Joined: 19 Feb 2008 Posts: 619 Location: Indiana USA
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Posted: Wed Nov 06, 2019 7:46 pm Post subject: |
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You mentioned batteries. When I changed my battery last year, I only found one. As I recall, after changing the button battery, the only thing I had to do was reset the calendar and clock. You will get a message to do that. I agree with you, definitely do a save all first. _________________ Kronos2-61..(2) Triton Classic, Nord Stage 2, Previously owned lots of other gear dating back to the 70’s. |
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GregC Platinum Member
Joined: 15 May 2002 Posts: 9451 Location: Discovery Bay (San Francisco Bay Area)
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Posted: Wed Nov 06, 2019 8:46 pm Post subject: |
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Falcon2e wrote: | You mentioned batteries. When I changed my battery last year, I only found one. As I recall, after changing the button battery, the only thing I had to do was reset the calendar and clock. You will get a message to do that. I agree with you, definitely do a save all first. |
yeah, I was puzzled by the " Mobo battery "
The only battery I knew of was for the clock that tracks time/date . Its been many years since the topic came up.
A google should bring out the facts on the battery. _________________ Kronos 88. MODX8
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NormC Full Member
Joined: 09 Jun 2015 Posts: 158
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Posted: Thu Nov 07, 2019 1:33 pm Post subject: Re: How to restore after swapping motherboard batteries |
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tomto66 wrote: | Hi, I need to replace the batteries on my motherboard. Would I be correct to state that the backup/restore procedure would be:
1. Do a save all
2. After battery replacement, load the PCG file
And that's it? I'm assuming that everything will stay where it was on disk, so no need to re-load all of that, right?
I'm also assuming that once loaded, the PCG data will stay in memory - no changes to be made to any preload settings, correct?
If not correct, then what/where/how?
Tx for a reaction! |
The battery is motherboard date and time. It does not affect your PCG. _________________ Kronos 2 73 |
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geoelectro Platinum Member
Joined: 14 Sep 2012 Posts: 1038 Location: Texas
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Posted: Thu Nov 07, 2019 1:48 pm Post subject: |
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If you leave it on while changing the battery nothing changes. Just be careful as usual.
Geo _________________ Kronos 61 : 3GB RAM 120GB 2nd Drv.
Kronos 2 61
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GregC Platinum Member
Joined: 15 May 2002 Posts: 9451 Location: Discovery Bay (San Francisco Bay Area)
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Posted: Thu Nov 07, 2019 2:29 pm Post subject: |
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geoelectro wrote: | If you leave it on while changing the battery nothing changes. Just be careful as usual.
Geo |
no chance of shock, with Kronos on, the bottom cover off, tipped upside down, while touching components ? _________________ Kronos 88. MODX8
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Xenophile Senior Member
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Posted: Thu Nov 07, 2019 8:39 pm Post subject: |
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GregC wrote: | geoelectro wrote: | If you leave it on while changing the battery nothing changes. Just be careful as usual.
Geo |
no chance of shock, with Kronos on, the bottom cover off, tipped upside down, while touching components ? |
Yes, there is a chance of shock. Also a greater chance of accidentally shorting something and seriously damaging your Kronos. |
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GregC Platinum Member
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Posted: Thu Nov 07, 2019 11:55 pm Post subject: |
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Xenophile wrote: | GregC wrote: | geoelectro wrote: | If you leave it on while changing the battery nothing changes. Just be careful as usual.
Geo |
no chance of shock, with Kronos on, the bottom cover off, tipped upside down, while touching components ? |
Yes, there is a chance of shock. Also a greater chance of accidentally shorting something and seriously damaging your Kronos. |
thats what I would think
Keeping the upside down Kronos powered off plus the power cable disconnected would avoid the 'perfect storm '. _________________ Kronos 88. MODX8
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geoelectro Platinum Member
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Posted: Fri Nov 08, 2019 1:53 pm Post subject: |
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GregC wrote: | geoelectro wrote: | If you leave it on while changing the battery nothing changes. Just be careful as usual.
Geo |
no chance of shock, with Kronos on, the bottom cover off, tipped upside down, while touching components ? |
The battery is 3V. The highest voltage on the MB is 5V. I doubt that would hurt you. I do it all the time as a technician.
Geo _________________ Kronos 61 : 3GB RAM 120GB 2nd Drv.
Kronos 2 61
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Xenophile Senior Member
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Posted: Fri Nov 08, 2019 5:03 pm Post subject: |
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geoelectro wrote: | no chance of shock, with Kronos on, the bottom cover off, tipped upside down, while touching components ?
The battery is 3V. The highest voltage on the MB is 5V. I doubt that would hurt you. I do it all the time as a technician.
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I'm not sure how well-protected the power supply board is. Would someone who isn't familiar with working inside an open chassis know which boards might be carrying high voltage?
Also, even as an experienced technician, have you never accidentally dropped a screw or a tool into a chassis? That can get exciting if the machine is powered up.
Here's a typical day at work for me
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GregC Platinum Member
Joined: 15 May 2002 Posts: 9451 Location: Discovery Bay (San Francisco Bay Area)
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Posted: Fri Nov 08, 2019 5:07 pm Post subject: |
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Xenophile wrote: | geoelectro wrote: | no chance of shock, with Kronos on, the bottom cover off, tipped upside down, while touching components ?
The battery is 3V. The highest voltage on the MB is 5V. I doubt that would hurt you. I do it all the time as a technician.
Geo |
I'm not sure how well-protected the power supply board is. Would someone who isn't familiar with working inside an open chassis know which boards might be carrying high voltage?
Also, even as an experienced technician, have you never accidentally dropped a screw or a tool into a chassis? That can get exciting if the machine is powered up.
Here's a typical day at work for me
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thats an exciting job ! No risk or problem there, not even a little
The only shock I am interested in is from my cardiologist to reverse my Afib.
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Xenophile Senior Member
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Posted: Fri Nov 08, 2019 5:31 pm Post subject: |
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GregC wrote: | No risk or problem there, not even a little
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As far as personal safety goes, the biggest risk in that mess is getting your finger in the exposed fan on the mobo to the right. The high voltages are all in the enclosed power supplies. But drop a screw onto one of those live boards and you're likely to get a fireworks show, and have some explaining to do! |
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