Korg Forums

[rensver]

Guys,

Before I lose my mind I would appreciate some advice.

I have bought a kronos 2 73, liked it but I heard some strange artefacts on one note in the Berlin Grand (and other piano's based on the same sample I gues). Tried to get rid of it (equaliser, velocity, restore factorysounds, restore complete system) but nothing worked. Could not live with that so I returned it, and bought another.

Much to my regret that one has exactly the same artefact (some high oscilating noise) on this one note.

Now I am very frustrated and wonder if it is me or is there really some strange oscillating overtone? This piano is one of the reasons I bought the kronos.

I hope you guys wil listen to a wav underneath to see if you hear it to or that I am losing my hearing. I played the a3, b3 and c4. One of them has the problem.

The wav file is here: https://ooknodig.nl/synthesizers/

Thanks!

[voip]

Which note is it, and does it shift up or down the keybed when using the octave shift A or B buttons?

I get something similar, but just one bum note near the left hand end on a 61-key, and have had from new, and assumed it was a bad SSD area holding the sample so was planning on replacing the SSD. It is the German Grand in this case. It's a bit of a bummer, but the rest of the sounds were perfect, and was having way too much enjoyment with the rest of the sounds to send it back to Korg.

.

[KK]

In SGX-2 mode, simply lower the level of damper resonance (for example, to -12 dB instead of 0) or even turn it off.

[rensver]

Damper release is off, in fact all components are off. BTW it is in SGX-1, nothing in 2

Besides the solution I really would like to know if you hear the oscillating sound in my sample?

[rensver]

[GregC]

[19naia]

[rensver]

I dont believe the it is the acoustic stringresonance I hear, it is rather a very high oscilator noise. Very soft only with the B3 note, but I hear it clearly especially since the other keys do not have that. It disturbes me also because it kind of comes after the piano sound, and I hear it also in chords I play with te B3 note. When I compare with my Nord Stage 2 those piano sounds are much cleaner.

I am very sad about it but I am returning this one also. Would have liked to finally also owning a Korg, since I always admired the Triton. But it is what it is. Thanx for the responses.

[GregC]

[KK]

[DeltaJockey]

[19naia]

So one dumps Kronos because the Berlin grand is not what it was expected to be.
So where does one go to get a Berlin Grand sampled piano that works as expected in just one person’s expectations?

And to dump Kronos because of the Berlin Grand, without realizing Kronos is designed to load in more piano sets than the already numerous piano options from the factory.
So now i am curious if the 3rd party piano sets available were considered?

Either way, if all you want is a superb piano, Kronos is not the best option.
Maybe Nord for a powerful and impressive sounding stage piano, or software pianos like found on KeyScape from Spectrasonics. Maybe other worthy software pianos that i don’t know about.

Kronos pianos are not bad, but the world of Acoustic pianos is one of acquired tastes. Some pianos win nearly every player over, mostly for their rare quality that comes with a huge price.
There are cheaper or simpler pianos that win some players away from the most expensive pianos even when the player can afford any piano in the world.

And that for sure means there is nothing wrong with an impulsive attitude towards Kronos pianos when you are looking mainly for pianos.
Your music has to be your playing and your playing has to be with what feels and sounds right for the music that matters to you.
Life isn’t meant to be wasted in things that don’t work for you, no matter how good those things may be in the acquired tastes of others.

All that said, it still does not say where you can go to find a Berlin Grand sampled piano program that is perfect.
But i suspect Nord and some of the Software pianos sets out there, will satisfy at the end of the road in alternatives.

[rensver]

Well if it was only the Berlin Grand one could easily accept it.

But this -what I call noisy artefact- is also in every piano on he Kronos that appearantly is based on the same sample. So almost 1/3 of all ap piano's in the kronos give this noise.

I have played piano's for about 40 years and this is the first instrument that has this strange artefact so audible on one note only. Thats why I don't believe this is an overtones, its much to obvious for that.

By the way I didn't post this to point out that the Kronos is a bad instrument, in contrary, I think it is a powerfull beast.
I just was looking for confirmation it was not my ears and maybe somebody would have found a solution. Or that is by coincidence in both Kornosses I tried.

[KK]

[GregC]