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[ChrisDuncan]

I'm sure this has been talked about a million times but the search page just sat there spinning so apologies for the redundant question.

My ears aren't as attuned to piano as they are guitar and while I can hear some differences, I was wondering what the benefits are to the Rudess version of the Yamaha.

He obviously created his own version for a reason, presumably to overcome what he felt were shortcomings in the stock Yamaha, so I was hoping the more adept among you could highlight where it shines and why.

I come from a classic rock background and I know the Yamaha is a favorite in that context. It certainly cuts through the mix more than the German / Steinway, although for just playing piano without the rest of a band I do prefer the latter.

Just trying to get a feel for where the Rudess version fits into the scheme of things.
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[GregC]

hi Chris, good question.

To clarify you are comparing the Rudess Japanese Grand [ Yamaha] factory program to ......... ?

-Other Kronos Japanese grand [ Yamaha ] factory programs ?

-The German Grand factory program ?

- my uncle's out of tune Yamaha U3 ?


You know, need more details
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[ChrisDuncan]

Next time you see your uncle tell him he still owes me twenty bucks.

Yeah, I guess I didn't specify. I meant the factory stock Rudess Yamaha in comparison to the Kronos factory Yamaha.

I know there are dark / light / etc. versions of the Yamaha but I seem to recall that there's also just a plain Jane Yamaha stock preset as well, so that's the baseline apple I'd like to compare Rudess' stock Kronos apple to. You know, if you're into comparative analysis of fruits.
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Chris Duncan
Atlanta, GA, USA, Earth

[GregC]

My uncle said he the lawn was supposed to be cut nicer, or something to that effect. I shouldn't get involved

Some of the diffs on the Japanese grands can be seen on the Common tab and the EQ tab.

In terms of my ears, I hear a slight diff between the Japanese rock grand and the Rudess. Some piano people here can expound further.

You play guitar , I think. For example, I hear a significant diff between a Les Paul vs an Es 335. Using the same amp/settings.
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[Devnor]

Rudess piano is bright with a hard attack needed to cut thru the rest of the band. Petrucci describes his current guitar tone like chocolate cake, thick & rich. Mmm cake.
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[KK]

Hi Chris,

To compare what is going on, stay within the same program, turn off all effects, place EQ at 0 everywhere and then switch between the piano types. The Rudess Japanese piano types - not programs - are simply about midway in terms of brightness between the Japanese standard types and the Japanese bright types and with a longer release time.

These types are simply a bit different and I have no clue if he participated or not in their programming. The other Japanese piano types are just fine as well, it simply depends what one prefers in a given context. The longer release time can be compared as if one keeps the damper pedal slightly depressed or as if the piano dampers are worn, which actually can create clarity problems in certain contexts. It can also help hiding uneven legato playing in fast passages.

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