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Idagani
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Posted: Sun Jul 07, 2019 1:29 am Post subject: need help in making a sample work in e2s as the source synth |
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Hello,
I am building a sample library to use in my e2s,
I have a friend who has the diva vst, we found a cool lead sound and
decided to record a short sample of the dry sound in C3, then imported it into the e2s and played it,
the sample sound identical on both, however where I start playing it on the electribe it doesn't behave as it does on diva.
I think that when playing it the filter cutoff changes and maybe something else.
I uploaded to short samples of both e2s and diva :
diva
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1DJZ2eB43bfSYXPHZHJ14j1yYqsKhJQMm/view?usp=sharing
electribe
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1uv-y3nApqJ712yq0TQRE8tONu8kdKE1g/view?usp=sharing
I know diva is a much more complex synth but I still would like to get as close as possible to the original.
Could you please listen to both and try to help me figure out if I can make it "behave" closer to diva.
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russellclarke Junior Member
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Posted: Sun Jul 07, 2019 5:50 am Post subject: |
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It sounds like the filter envelope attack is modulated on the Diva, possibly by velocity. Sometimes the filter is opening more quickly. The electribe doesn't have velocity as a modulation source. You could route MIDI via a computer and use note velocity to modulate envelope attack CC. You could try changing the polyphony setting. One of them (i forget which) prevents the envelope from re-triggering when playing legato. This may sound similar to modulating the attack time. _________________ https://freesound.org/people/bangcorrupt/
http://ccmixter.org/people/bangcorrupt
https://github.com/bangcorrupt |
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Idagani
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Posted: Mon Jul 08, 2019 2:54 am Post subject: |
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thanks for the reply,
not sure I fully understood the 'you could route midi through a computer and use note velocity to modulate envelope attack CC',
could you please clarify |
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russellclarke Junior Member
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Idagani
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Posted: Mon Jul 08, 2019 4:00 pm Post subject: |
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ok, got you, thanks, I'll try it out.
If this works, that means I have to use a daw / computer,
whole point in getting the e2s was that I want to try and avoid the daw / work only with the e2s.
Guess I have to be realistic about the e2s (not sound good as Diva or other good vst's),
so maybe I should try to work with the e2 (synth version) and program it to get close to some sounds I'm interested in
(like the 1st preset in the korg polysix plugin - called fat line bass),
do you have any experience in that ?
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russellclarke Junior Member
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1_inch_punch Senior Member
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Idagani
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Posted: Tue Jul 09, 2019 11:29 pm Post subject: |
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thanks that's brilliant !!!
how to do ableton live's automation lane manually on Korg Electribe,
might be good for side chaining too
now I just need to learn how to program sounds on this thing,
I am used to the more typical multi oscillator setup on my VA
where you can combine different oscillators with different wave-forms
which I think is not possible on it, but less might be more.
Is there any good tutorial on programming sounds in YouTube or somewhere else ? |
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TheDoctor Full Member
Joined: 28 Mar 2019 Posts: 162
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Posted: Wed Jul 10, 2019 7:30 pm Post subject: |
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Idagani wrote: | thanks that's brilliant !!!
how to do ableton live's automation lane manually on Korg Electribe,
might be good for side chaining too
now I just need to learn how to program sounds on this thing,
I am used to the more typical multi oscillator setup on my VA
where you can combine different oscillators with different wave-forms
which I think is not possible on it, but less might be more.
Is there any good tutorial on programming sounds in YouTube or somewhere else ? |
I don't know if you can do in Ableton but in Maschine I can link different parts and play simultaneously. Often I have different oscillator with different modulation play as one. |
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