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PostPosted: Thu Jan 19, 2017 2:20 pm    Post subject: NAMM 2017 Montage version 1.5 update Reply with quote

The Japanese Yamaha site is advertising a version 1.5 update for the Montage. It mentions a new rotary speaker effect and organ voices! I’m sure the English language announcement will show up as soon as the NAMM embargo expires. Stay tuned.

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PostPosted: Thu Jan 19, 2017 6:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Roland did three synth engines with the FA workstations a few years ago, PCM (XV5080) and S-Natural Synth and Super Natural Accoustic, a few years back so you could say they've already done it. The V-Synth XT had the V-Synth, D50 and Vocal Processing synth engines (and this was even before Korg).
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 19, 2017 7:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

skinmechanic wrote:
The V-Synth XT had the V-Synth, D50 and Vocal Processing synth engines (and this was even before Korg).


But you couldn't have them at the same time. Which is what OASYS did-
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 19, 2017 9:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ok, I give in, where is this surprise...?
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 19, 2017 10:13 pm    Post subject: Re: NAMM 2017 Montage version 1.5 update Reply with quote

pjd37 wrote:
The Japanese Yamaha site is advertising a version 1.5 update for the Montage. It mentions a new rotary speaker effect and organ voices! I’m sure the English language announcement will show up as soon as the NAMM embargo expires. Stay tuned.

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https://yamahasynth.com/component/k2/montageosversion15

Nothing exciting
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 19, 2017 11:18 pm    Post subject: Re: Roland RD-2000 Reply with quote

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Roland RD-2000 Standard Features

Next-generation RD stage piano with two independent sound engines and modern controller features
Dedicated acoustic piano sound engine with the latest Roland advancements provides authentic, richly detail tone with full polyphony
Second SuperNATURAL-based sound engine with 128-voice polyphony for electric pianos and additional sounds (compatible with RD-800 Live Sets)
Eight knobs with LED status indicators and nine sliders for real-time control of sounds and effects
Eight fully assignable zones for combining internal sounds and external sources (including software instruments)
PHA-50 keyboard features hybrid wood and molded construction for premium touch and lasting durability
Classic electric pianos on board, including Roland’s legendary RD-1000 and MKS-20
Recreations of vintage analog effects, including the BOSS CE-1 Chorus, Roland Dimension D, and more
Over 1100 non-piano sounds, including organs, strings, brass, synths, and many others
Two wave expansion slots for loading additional sounds from Roland’s Axial website, including sounds from previous RD-series pianos
100 Scene memories for saving and recalling setups with one touch
Traditional Roland pitch/mod lever and two assignable wheel controllers
24-bit/192 kHz USB audio/MIDI interface

Tech Specs
KEYBOARD SECTIONKeyboardPHA-50 Keyboard: Wood and Plastic Hybrid Structure, with Escapement and Ebony/Ivory Feel (88 keys)SOUND GENERATOR SECTIONSound Generator2x Independent Sound Engines
Sound Engine1: V-Piano Technology
Sound Engine2: SuperNATURAL
SuperNATURAL Piano
SuperNATURAL (E.Piano, Clav)
Virtual Tone Wheel Organ
PCM Sound GeneratorMax. PolyphonyV-Piano Technology Sound Engine: Full Polyphony
SuperNATURAL Sound Engine: 128 voicesParts16 parts (Max 8 parts are used in the PROGRAM)Tones1,100 tones OverProgram300Scene100EffectsModulation FX: 4 systems, 62 types
Tremolo/Amp Simulator: 4 systems, 6 types
Reverb: 6 types
Delay: 5 types
Sympathetic Resonance (Only for SuperNATURAL Piano)
3-band Compressor
5-band Digital EqualizerAUDIO FILE PLAYERFile FormatAudio Files (WAV format, 44.1 kHz, 16-bit linear)RECORDER SECTIONFile FormatAudio Files (WAV format, 44.1 kHz, 16-bit linear)External Storage DeviceUSB flash drive (supports USB 2.0 Hi-Speed flash memory)OTHERRhythm Pattern200 patternsControllersSlider x 9 (with illumination)
Knobs x 8 (with illumination)
Pitch Bend/Modulation lever
Modulation Wheel x 2DisplayGraphic LCD 256 x 80 dotsConnectorsMAIN OUT (L/MONO, R) jacks: 1/4-inch phone type
MAIN OUT (L, R) jacks: XLR type
SUB OUT (L, R) jacks:1/4-inch phone type
NPUT jack: Stereo miniature phone type
Pedal (DAMPER, FC1, FC2, EXT) jacks: TRS phone type
MIDI (IN, OUT1, THRU/OUT2) connectors
USB (COMPUTER) port: USB type B
USB (MEMORY) port: USB type A
PHONES jack: Stereo 1/4 inch phone type
AC In jackNumber of USB Audio Record/Playback ChannelsSignal Processing: 24-bit
Sampling Rate: 192 kHz, 96 kHz, 88.2 kHz, 48 kHz, 44.1 kHz
Record: 2 channels
Playback: 2 channelsPower Consumption23 WAccessoriesOwner’s manual
Power cord
Damper pedal (capable of continuous detection)OptionsKeyboard stand: KS-G8B
Piano pedal: RPU-3
Damper pedal: DP-10
Pedal switch: DP-2
Expression pedal: EV-5
USB Flash MemorySIZE AND WEIGHTWidth1,412 mm
55-5/8 inchesDepth367 mm
14-1/2 inchesHeight140 mm
5-9/16 inchesWeight21.7 kg
47 lbs 14 oz
* Actual weight can vary slightly from that indicated due to the fact that wooden parts are involved.[/img]


This appears to be at variance with other statements by Roland about this keyboard. Specifically this:


Sound Engine1: V-Piano Technology
Sound Engine2: SuperNATURAL
SuperNATURAL Piano
SuperNATURAL (E.Piano, Clav)

This makes it sound like it has BOTH V-piano and Supernatural acoustic pianos in it. But on their website, it says the second engine is for Supernatural electric pianos, under Standard Features:

"Second SuperNATURAL-based sound engine with 128-voice polyphony for electric pianos and additional sounds (compatible with RD-800 Live Sets)."

This is important. I would like to have an instrument with both. Roland needs to clear this up.
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 20, 2017 3:20 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

billysynth1 wrote:
Ok, I give in, where is this surprise...?

The surprise was the new Korg Grand Stage.
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 20, 2017 4:29 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

StephenKay wrote:
billysynth1 wrote:
Ok, I give in, where is this surprise...?

The surprise was the new Korg Grand Stage.


Gezzzzzzz, what the heck, i would have expected at least an ARP engine as part of the seven, can it load samples or what you see if what you get? On a up beat note, it looks like it has full size keys ... Sad. All the other manufactures also look and sound like ground hog day. If this is it, then i see DM12 as synth of the year, but maybe i'm getting ahead of myself in day 1, ... I HOPE!!!
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 20, 2017 4:56 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hooked On Sonics wrote:
StephenKay wrote:
billysynth1 wrote:
Ok, I give in, where is this surprise...?

The surprise was the new Korg Grand Stage.


Gezzzzzzz, what the heck, i would have expected at least an ARP engine as part of the seven, can it load samples or what you see if what you get? On a up beat note, it looks like it has full size keys ... Sad. All the other manufactures also look and sound like ground hog day. If this is it, then i see DM12 as synth of the year, but maybe i'm getting ahead of myself in day 1, ... I HOPE!!!


I kind of agree DM12 possibly Rev2, still would rather have the OB6, I do want a Roli lightpad block now that the dashboard is on the way. I know many thin of it as a toy and thats ok with me as long as I can have some fun with it. I don't really see anything earth shattering. I think we were all spoiled with the year Kronos was released, now that was exciting and will be a tuff act to follow!
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 20, 2017 9:38 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I wonder if there is a Spandau Ballet patch also on the Kronos Gold referred as Gold Wink it would be fitting Smile
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 21, 2017 4:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

As far as multi-faceted stage pianos goes I absolutely love the new Roland RD-2000, an excellent achievement of the Roland team.
It also is a great masterkeyboard for both studio and live set-ups.
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 21, 2017 4:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Jan1 wrote:
As far as multi-faceted stage pianos goes I absolutely love the new Roland RD-2000, an excellent achievement of the Roland team.
It also is a great masterkeyboard for both studio and live set-ups.


Yes, seems they definately looked at Kurzweil, when building the RD2000...
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 21, 2017 8:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Shame it wasn't a new workstation in the end. Happy to see a new Piano, but would have assumed greatly that the KRONOS is due a successor at this stage.

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PostPosted: Sat Jan 21, 2017 8:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Bachus wrote:
Jan1 wrote:
As far as multi-faceted stage pianos goes I absolutely love the new Roland RD-2000, an excellent achievement of the Roland team.
It also is a great masterkeyboard for both studio and live set-ups.


Yes, seems they definately looked at Kurzweil, when building the RD2000...


I think they were more inspired by the Nimitz. I can't understand why Roland add all that extra length for a joystick on what is mainly a stage piano.
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 22, 2017 12:21 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

spaceman3 wrote:
It isnt a workstation.
I could be wrong.


you were right

Not many accurate guesses in the thread Smile
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