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aron · Posted: Fri Jan 22, 2016 10:46 pm Post subject:

Owners manual is up!
http://download.yamaha.com/search/product/?site=usa.yamaha.com&language=en&category_id1=16277&category_id2=16381&category_id3=&product_id=2166246
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Derek Cook · Posted: Sat Jan 23, 2016 8:01 am Post subject:

The manual answered my question of whether or or not the Montage will have master keyboard features for external units. It does Smile

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Bald Eagle · Posted: Sat Jan 23, 2016 10:54 am Post subject:

Jan1 · Platinum Member Joined: 16 Mar 2005 Posts: 765

Here's a YouTube clip which shows you some practical hands on examples of how the Montage works.

It sounds like a very impressive beast, and I love the liveliness the motion seq can bring to a sound or how the super knob is able to let you morph between a large set of different parameters with just one turn of the knob.
I just wish that Yamaha had at least left some more sequence functionality in the Montage, it's quite handy.

By the way, in the SonicState clip Blake mentioned (around 12:40) that 'over the course of the development of the Montage things will be evolving', which makes me wonder if perhaps this could mean that additional engines may find their way into the Montage, or if it is more related to the specifications of what currently is in the Montage.

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Derek Cook · Posted: Sat Jan 23, 2016 5:54 pm Post subject:

EvilDragon · Posted: Sat Jan 23, 2016 6:05 pm Post subject:

Keywords: EACH PERFORMANCE. Hence, not global.

spaceman3 · Platinum Member Joined: 25 Jan 2015 Posts: 520

I know i have been knocking the MONTAGE, but the truth is i really like the darn thing.
Yamaha sure does make great guitar sounds, and from the few ive heard in MONTAGE they sound great.
Plus im sure there are alot of great sounds in MONTAGE.
If i was rich and could add another synth, i would not hesitate to buy one.
It is a pricey perf synth at $3000. for the six model.
Maybe later on i will get me a used MX49 on fleabay, just to get yamaha guitars. Laughing

aron · Posted: Sun Jan 24, 2016 7:15 pm Post subject:

Yeah, I could use that super knob and the motion control for sure. I would love playing that keyboard, but I would not love carrying it around. Will see how long the Kronos lasts, but it will be a really tough decision between a Montage 2 or the next gen of Kronos.
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Bachus · Platinum Member Joined: 23 Apr 2006 Posts: 3127

Reactions from NAMM seem to confirm a few things..

- It sounds awesome
- It feels like real Synth
- Its not a workstation
- It looks and feels great
- its build like a tank but also has the weight of a tank

- There is a whole lot of things missing when compared to teh Kronos, but also when compared to technollogy in other Yamaha instruments. Its definately no an all in one.

Which means that the Kronos is the only real hardware workstation left.

Adding this on top of your Kronos is definately an option as both instruments add to eachother.

billysynth1 · Posted: Mon Jan 25, 2016 6:43 am Post subject:

Just for fun...

Can two sound engines knock out 9 sound engines?
Is FMX superior to the synth engines in Kronos?
Are Montage's arps superior to Karma?
Is AWM2 better than Kronos HD1?

I seem to hear a lot more happening in Montage's performance mode, also, does a single FMX sound superior to any of Kronos synth engines?

Just going by what we've heard on the net so far...

I think Korg should be concerned Cool

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EvilDragon · Posted: Mon Jan 25, 2016 7:41 am Post subject:

Korg's MOD7 has 6 operators, FM-X has 8 operators. Then again, MOD7 offers waveshaping and ring modulation, which doesn't seem to be a part of FM-X. There are pros and cons to both, but just by pure numbers, FM-X is more featured when it comes to FM synthesis compared to MOD7 (except it doesn't currently have DX7 patch import, which MOD7 does - which is kind of a letdown, considering it's Yammie who made the DX7. They should've had that patch import option from the get go.)

marc1 · Full Member Joined: 04 May 2015 Posts: 119

I don't think Korg is concerned in any way.
Why? Because the Kronos is already out there since 5 years and still has a lot more to offer than Montage.

Concerning the sounds of Montage I have to say that i liked the pianos, guitars and some of the string sounds. Strangely I found the strings in the live demos to be very artificial sounding whereas on yammys page the strings (seattle section) sound way more realistic. The guitar sounds have always been a strength of yammy, so no surprise there. But I didn't hear anything outstanding that would have convinced me that AWM2 is truely superior to HD1.

The motion sounds of Montage leave me stone cold, they are boring (IMHO) and i don't think they will leave much of an impression in a professional studio environment with all the superior (and especially cheaper) software out there (Omnisphere, Native Instruments stuff, etc.).

The interface of Montage reminded me of Battery 4, very monotonous and tiresome. Kronos still looks better. It looks more user friendly and simply more fun to work with. Of course everything is highly subjective and the Montage will sell (well?), no doubt about that. But in 2016 I think its simply not enough to update Motif sounds and give 1.75 of user memory at such a high price.

Just my two cents

aron · Posted: Mon Jan 25, 2016 8:11 am Post subject:

> except it doesn't currently have DX7 patch import

Are you sure? That is a huge letdown.
I really doubt a bunch of people are going to sit down and program the FM part like they did when the DX7 came out.
I would write a converter but I'm not sure this keyboard will sell a lot.
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