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alpha80 · Joined: 19 Apr 2006 Posts: 17 Location: Chicago, IL

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1. Chuck Hagel- A simultaneously moderate, tough, and intelligent Nebraska Republican who hates the same republicans we hate. A Vietnam Vet who opposed the Iraq War, calls it a failure. Thinks George Bush has embarrassed the USA, and horribly damaged our image overseas. An economic populist/centrist with loads of swing-voter appeal among virtually all regions and demographics. The base would like other choices, but Barack pleasing the democratic base for a high turnout is not needed in this election cycle. LOL

Hagel would also take away much of the republicans’ strongest argument: “We’re stronger on national defense”.
Barack, since his 1st primary victory in Iowa, has been speaking strongly and convincingly about building a very serious and broad coalition of experts, across all democrat, independent, and republican party lines. This VP choice would prove that, BEFORE the election, and the GOP would collectively sh!t their shorts.

2. Jim Webb- A Virginia Senator who was former secretary of the Navy under Ronald Reagan. Military smarts in spades. VERY Pro-2nd amendment, which may lock down a few Mountain-West states for Barack. Can also likely deliver the state of Virginia’s electoral votes in the general election.

Side note: Came very close to a fistfight with George W. Bush, when at an event, after Webb spoke his mind very boldly to Bush’s face about policy differences, Bush made a half-vieled threat about Webb’s son’s safety (Webb’s son is currently serving in Iraq).

This MF is the toughest democrat on the hill, with all the credentials and military experience to back it up. With Webb on the ticket, the republicans “soft on defense” attacks will lose much of their credibility with the same type of people they were designed to frighten. Webb has that.

3. Hillary Clinton- Barack may feel pressure to put her on the ticket, but would it be the smartest choice ? She’s got a lot of baggage, but the old white women will almost certainly vote for her as Vice President. That’s still making history to those women. Would she even accept VP ? Or instead want to position herself well for 2012, should Barack lose ?

Since the NC and Indiana primaries, Hilary looks like she’ll slowly bring all her supporter’s back over to Barack, regardless of if she’s VP or not. Provided Barack pay off her campaign debts, and agree to a few other conditions, like making her Senate majority leader to replace Harry Reid, and nominating certain cabinet positions of her choice. Should Hillary choose to want to be VP, it has a high risk/reward scenario. Especially after they win the white house. Is it big enough for 3 of them?

4. John Edwards - A champion against poverty, who grew up poor, and became a millionaire trial lawyer by defending people who got f#@ked over by big corporations. Sounds like just what we need in an Attourney general in 2009….

Would certainly help Barack garner votes amongst southern whites, and when combined with big numbers in new registration and turnout in the black community, may even put the Carolinas in play. But he’s been on a losing ticket (2004 w/ Kerry), without carrying his own state. But that was 4 years ago, and in current political climate years, that’s a lifetime. Also polls well with Barack among older midwestern whites. But again, Edwards is much more likely to prosecute Bush-era crooks & war-profiteers as Attourney General.

5. Bill Richardson - Probably the most qualified candidate of all the VP choices, with truckloads of domestic and international policy experience.

A real concern, is that republicans could use the fact that Barack payed off Richardson’s campaign debts, in exchange for his endorsement. That’s why Carville called him Judas.
More likely to do his work repairing the damage Bush did, as a high-level international diplomat with Latin America and Asia.

6. Christopher Dodd - One of the most well-liked senators, of either political party, in all of congress. Knowledge and experience across the board. A rolodex of authored legislation on virtually any issue, foreign or domestic, many co-authored with congressional members across the isle. Fits with Barack’s message of bi-partisan unity.

Would help greatly among swing-voters whose key issues are economic. Would also absolutely destroy whoever McCain picks for VP in the vice presidential debate. DESTROY.

7. Joseph Biden - Another ridiculously over-qualified candidate. Domestic economics, domestic social & judicial issues, international diplomacy, international trade law, name it, and Biden has decades of knowledge & experience. Authored more legislation than any other candidate, much of it passed with bi-partisan support. 1st to advocate for raising the $97,000 ceiling on social security taxes, which will be a major campaign issue. Also, would definitely improve Barack’s numbers among catholics.

Unfortuneatly, he suffers from foot-in-mouth. Will likely become a very effective Secretary of State shortly after Barack’s innaguration

8. Sam Nunn - An older, southern democrat, who voted against the 1st Persian Gulf War. Has made nuclear non-proliferation his major issue, which has been back burner for some mysterious reason. Confused

Holds board positions at several major US corporations, which could be twisted into a negative. Nunn was considered as a vice president for John Kerry, and has already endorsed Barack, despite being courted by independent NY mayor Michael Bloomberg as his own vice president running mate.

9. Al Gore - It’s a real longshot, but it may pay off. Very respected internationally. Comes with a large, nationwide coalition already. Probably would not deliver the state of Tennessee, but brings broad appeal in many regions, among many demographics. Association with the Clinton brand, and the economic growth of the 90’s, possibly helps ease the transition of Hillary’s constituency coming to Barack in november. Loved by all environmentalists, whether a swing voter, or part of the liberal base. Certainly wouldn’t hurt among the exact demographic Barack is having major trouble with: Lower-middle class Whites who vote off of name recognition and familiarity.

10. Tim Kaine (VA) / Ted Strickland (OH) / Ed Rendell (PA) / Robert Casey (PA)

Basically these dudes are no-names who happen to be governors of swing states. Casey is a popular senator from a swing state. These choices won't piss anybody off, but none of them are going for the knock out either. Also, if they don't go hard and get you their home state, they're chalked up as dead weight. Hit or miss.

Please vote and state your vote in a post. Post an explanation if you want to.
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Diego · Posted: Thu May 15, 2008 8:21 am Post subject:

I don't know anything about italian politics, so I guess I can't write anything about US politics...
But if I'm not wrong, moderators highly suggest not to talk about politics because it's one of the main cause of flames...

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JonSolo · Posted: Thu May 15, 2008 8:40 pm Post subject:

I tend to agree Diego. There isn't a man on this planet who isn't a man...unless he is a woman...and then he is a she. The point is, we are all human, and we usually are selfish when we get a little power.

All politians...ALL politians are human.

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JonSolo · Posted: Fri May 16, 2008 2:07 am Post subject:

I know.

chinard · Posted: Fri May 16, 2008 2:07 am Post subject:

can i nominate larry flint?
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JonSolo · Posted: Fri May 16, 2008 2:12 am Post subject:

OmarNoori · Senior Member Joined: 14 Feb 2008 Posts: 292

john edwards ftw!
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candlewick · Posted: Sat May 17, 2008 12:02 am Post subject:

Obama is the most dangerous presidential candidate to rise from the masses in decades. His ideas are nowhere near mainstream. Voters need to dig much deeper than the mainstream media to discover what makes him tick. I am truly frightened the more I learn from this candidate. I fail to understand how the populace can view him as the next US president.

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georgeinar · Posted: Sat May 17, 2008 4:02 pm Post subject:

Candlewick, your comment is interesting, but I would like to hear what is so scarey about him, because I haven't seen that side at all. Just curious.
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RiotNrrd · Posted: Sat May 17, 2008 4:42 pm Post subject:

My understanding is that political and religious discussions are... discouraged... on this board.

candlewick · Posted: Sat May 17, 2008 8:33 pm Post subject:

Hopefully we will see candidates from both sides of the political spectrum get a chance to answer the hard questions between now and the election. The liberal media has been way to soft on Hilary and Obama, and Mc Cain allowed to sit on the sidelines. Everything has been generalities up till now. I'd really like to hear how each of them would respond to a major natural disaster on US soil. A major attack against allies in Europe (terrorism). The unrest in eastern Europe and former Soviet States. ect, ect.

Its too easy to just say............get the boys out of Iraq, and keep American jobs. I can say that. It's the how are you going to pull it off that needs articulation. Rhetoric won't solve what ails the US and the world.

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Sorry............I guess I picked dis-chord. Every once in a while a minor key cries out for some attention.
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alpha80 · Joined: 19 Apr 2006 Posts: 17 Location: Chicago, IL

EJ2 · Posted: Sun May 18, 2008 2:51 pm Post subject:

jazlover · Posted: Sun May 18, 2008 9:09 pm Post subject:

This is only going to get ugly.

I think Hugo Chavez would make a great V. P.. He can restore a just and compassionate new order. Just ask the Venezuelan people.

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