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Thoraldus
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 Posted: Tue Nov 03, 2015 6:45 am Post subject: Multi-sample Comparison PA4X, PA3X, PA3XLE, PA900, PA600 |
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I've taken a bit of time and extracted all the multi-sample (ROM Samples) lists for the named keyboards. The numbers are ...
PA600 561
PA900 835
PA3xLE 838
PA3X 831
PA4x 1427
That's a huge jump for the PA4X. Here's an Excel file I cobbled up so you can compare the multi-sample layout between the keyboards. Should be handy for those of you who want to convert Factory or User Sounds from one machine to another.
Download Excel File
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karmathanever
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Thanks Rick - great
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angelitto
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| Very interesting. Thanks a lot. |
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alina
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Great. Thanks Rick.
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tkarlmann
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| Posted: Tue Nov 03, 2015 9:09 pm Post subject: I'm not understanding your List! |
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You list 11 sounds for Grand Piano, isn't that one sound? Then I went into the Pa4x Manual, found a sound "Hichiriki" and searched for "Hichiriki" -- whatever that is -- and that sound is not in your list -- Excel cannot find it. Can you explain why your list differs from the Manual's .pdf?
Also, the spec blurbs for the Pa4x mention the unit has "over 1500 factory sounds". Who's right? |
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Thoraldus
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| Posted: Wed Nov 04, 2015 2:54 am Post subject: Re: I'm not understanding your List! |
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| tkarlmann wrote: | You list 11 sounds for Grand Piano, isn't that one sound? Then I went into the Pa4x Manual, found a sound "Hichiriki" and searched for "Hichiriki" -- whatever that is -- and that sound is not in your list -- Excel cannot find it. Can you explain why your list differs from the Manual's .pdf?
Also, the spec blurbs for the Pa4x mention the unit has "over 1500 factory sounds". Who's right? |
There is a difference between Sounds and Samples. Sounds are made from ROM or RAM Samples. This Excel file is a comparison of the ROM Samples across the PA keyboards. If you open the Hichiriki sound in the Sound Editor you would find it is constructed of two layered sound samples, the Shakuhachi and Alto Sax p ... at least on my PA600 it is.
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Nemik
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| Posted: Wed Nov 04, 2015 4:22 am Post subject: |
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Thanks Rick .
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nitecrawler
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| Posted: Wed Nov 04, 2015 9:01 am Post subject: |
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Thank you Rick. Very informative stuff. 
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wma
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| Posted: Wed Nov 04, 2015 6:32 pm Post subject: |
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| would you please record the multi-samples of the pa4x & its waveform data through a good audio interface in high bit rate & depth so we can use them with a software sampler something like kontact? |
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Thoraldus
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| wma wrote: | | would you please record the multi-samples of the pa4x & its waveform data through a good audio interface in high bit rate & depth so we can use them with a software sampler something like kontact? |
Sorry, but that would be patently illegal. Now, if you purchased your own PA4X and record the samples for your own use ... 
I see you appear to be pretty new around here. Asking people here to to break copyright laws is a sure fire way to get yourself banned.
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wma
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i thought it's legally possible as the owner is recording the machines soundes via the external output audio ports/jacks and not hacking the entire rom chip to extract the sounds or some secured data
not meant to be illegal! |
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Thoraldus
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| Posted: Wed Nov 04, 2015 6:49 pm Post subject: |
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| wma wrote: | i thought it's legally possible as the owner is recording the machines soundes via the external output audio ports/jacks and not hacking the entire rom chip to extract the sounds or some secured data
not meant to be illegal! |
1: I do not have a PA4X ... yet.
2: It would be my (or anyone else) giving the samples to you that would be illegal, even if no money is involved.
3: Do you have any idea of the amount of work that would be involved to do this???
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wma
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half an hour?
thanks anyways for clarification  |
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KONNECTORAS
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| Posted: Mon Nov 30, 2015 10:31 am Post subject: |
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| wma wrote: | half an hour?
thanks anyways for clarification |
Sampling sounds, even from a legally possesed copy -the keyboard is a legal one- IS unauthorised copying and breaks the end user agreement.
Even if you do this for yourself, IS illegal.
The amount of work to sample all the new multisamples is some days at least...
Then adda some days too for next level editing to make them playable... |
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KONNECTORAS
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| Posted: Mon Nov 30, 2015 10:59 am Post subject: Re: Multi-sample Comparison PA4X, PA3X, PA3XLE, PA900, PA600 |
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| Thoraldus wrote: | I've taken a bit of time and extracted all the multi-sample (ROM Samples) lists for the named keyboards. The numbers are ...
PA600 561
PA900 835
PA3xLE 838
PA3X 831
PA4x 1427
That's a huge jump for the PA4X. Here's an Excel file I cobbled up so you can compare the multi-sample layout between the keyboards. Should be handy for those of you who want to convert Factory or User Sounds from one machine to another.
Download Excel File |
Thumbs up dude!!!!!
I was thinking of doing this some time!!!
Thanks a lot!!! |
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