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Lorenzo · Posted: Thu Jan 17, 2008 2:37 pm Post subject:

still 128 polyphony... When will someone think to create a 256, 512 polyphony rompler!?
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synthguy · Platinum Member Joined: 05 Jan 2005 Posts: 661

@ Lorenzo,

128 voice polyphony is actually pretty big. I'm with you in wanting more like 172-256 voices, but that requires some pretty high quality DACs to give your output any kind of spaciousness. I guess the Oasys is king in that respect. The Big Four - Yamaha, Roland, Korg and Kurzweil - are giving good converters to their boards, so maybe in a couple more years we'll see that.

Now I have to run over to the Roland site to see if I'll be wanting a G over a Motif XS. Wink

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Synthia · Posted: Thu Jan 17, 2008 10:04 pm Post subject:

The new Fantom G looks to be an interesting piece of kit.Now I'm stuck.I was going to buy the Motif XS next month but I'm not sure now.
Now it's a toss up between XS and G.
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GregC · Posted: Thu Jan 17, 2008 10:07 pm Post subject:

hi there, you definitely should wait
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thekeymaster · Posted: Thu Jan 17, 2008 11:53 pm Post subject:

I agree with Greg, Synthia,hold fire until you can compare the two.It means waiting a few months but you may love the way the "G" does certain things.It also comes mainly down to sound,what do you prefer Roland or Yamaha.I'm very intrigued by the Roland though,I already use the Fan X8 and was ready to get rid of as I cant gig with it anymore,too much weight.I was gonna get a X6 or 7.The G7 looks inviting to me......it will compliment my O76 very nicely.

Its nice when new products are released,feels like an extended Xmas. Wink

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Vadim · Platinum Member Joined: 20 Nov 2006 Posts: 625

Fantom-G's sequencer is Definatly OASYS Killer!!!

As usual, Roland waits for Korg to release something, than they copy it and make it somehow better...

IMO, even XS is better than OASYS...
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Voltan · Posted: Fri Jan 18, 2008 12:20 am Post subject:

you mean in terms of sequencing only? or in general? :>

thekeymaster · Posted: Fri Jan 18, 2008 12:33 am Post subject:

Synthia · Posted: Fri Jan 18, 2008 1:03 am Post subject:

Hi keymaster and greg,

You are right there,I should wait for the Fantom G to hit the stores but I hate waiting Smile

I already have the Fantom S and V-Synth but no Yamaha board at all apart from the old DX7.So really I need a Yammy board in my set up.The Motif XS has some very nice sounds and it does sound different from the Rolands and Korgs.
Saying that the G does look sooo tempting. Smile

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synthguy · Platinum Member Joined: 05 Jan 2005 Posts: 661

Well..... now I'm not sure.

I have a Fantom-X and it's fine and dandy with just it's basic effects, since the SRX cards along with that 128meg rom are outstanding. I don't need killer filters since I have a Karma plus MOSS, along with a Kurzweil K2000, Motif Rack and a few other goodies.

However... a Fantom-X with 16 insert effects... and that's even before considering possibly better filters, and whatever synth madness Roland is going to unleash with ARX boards. I might have to think about this.
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Voltan · Posted: Fri Jan 18, 2008 1:17 am Post subject:

OK... it looks like the new Fantom features a "LIVE MODE" which basically lets you cylce through setups without any sound iterruption. Now that's a cool feature.

vEddY · Posted: Fri Jan 18, 2008 1:36 am Post subject:

darwiniandude · Joined: 18 Jan 2008 Posts: 2

I guess I can understand a previous posters opinion that some other workstations IN SOME areas beat the Oasys...

I have neither, but have used both a lot. I love the Oasys, and I want one. However there are some minuses vs the Roland. So for an all in one workstation, the Fantoms do have some benefits over the much better Oasys.

Sequencer, no audio track view like fantom.
Sequencer, no piano roll view like fantom.
Load boot time due to all 'rom' sounds being loaded into ram from hard disk.
size, weight.

But I'd still rather have an Oasys.

Korg could easily fix all those issues in a software update anyway, shoudl they choose. I was just suprised when I sat in front of the 10" Oasys Screen that there was still only an event list for midi data.

EDIT: this is just a comment, based on my use of the Oasys and Fantom X, not Fantom G. Still no touch screen... atleast the drum pads can be used for Numeric entry now. I can't believe the Fantom S and Fantom X had NO ability to quickly 'dial up' a sound on a number pad a la Korg. Nuts!

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