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CliveJ · Junior Member Joined: 30 Dec 2020 Posts: 91

Hm… a lot of different viewpoints - all valid.

My twopenneth (or two cents)….

The industry is moving towards computer centric music in all environments. It’s so easy now to buy, or even get for free, vsts that will “do the job”. I’m moving to a laptop and vsts because it’s safer to use a “dumb” keyboard to drive them. In the event of theft I can easily register my plugins to a new pc, I can easily find another keyboard to drive them. If I lose my Kronos it’s expensive to replace. Plus it may just fail anyway.

Don’t get me wrong - I love my K and I’m keeping it until one of us dies. But I will sample the hell out of it in the meantime - even though that defeats the point of having all the engines I can keep my sounds.

Korg have more recently gone towards the Raspberry Pi - I’m not surprised, it seems to be bullet proof, readily available, and it’s quite powerful - and cheap. I wonder whether there is a market for a keyboard that you can plug multiple Pi’s into - each hosting a vst, sequencer, karma, mixer etc - each one from your manufacturer of choice. (if somebody takes this idea on remember where the suggestion came from Very Happy

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The current market seems to be orientated towards some kind of master controller and pc hosted instruments. I think that Korg will go in this direction - a “Kronos” controller and software behind it. It doesn’t make sense anymore to have proprietary hardware, and that’s not where the money is.
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ITguy54 · Full Member Joined: 22 Mar 2015 Posts: 248

KK · Platinum Member Joined: 13 Oct 2016 Posts: 1422

Put simply, the Nautilus is Korg's current flagship workstation, a reduced version of its predecessor, just like the Kronos was a reduced version of the Oasys years ago.

ChrisDuncan · Senior Member Joined: 17 May 2018 Posts: 389

drama1 · Platinum Member Joined: 04 Apr 2007 Posts: 663

Well, I don't know if there will ever be a Kronos 3, but there's no way you'll see somebody like Jordan Rudess using a Nautilus for live performance.

ITguy54 · Full Member Joined: 22 Mar 2015 Posts: 248

kronoSphere · Platinum Member Joined: 04 Jan 2012 Posts: 698

I believe that in the field of technical design of future workstations, (to only talk about this area) the arrival of A.I. will enable technological advances that were unimaginable just a few years ago.

Also: this is why I believe that Korg will now really be interested in the design of a Kronos 3 or even 4 etc

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ChrisDuncan · Senior Member Joined: 17 May 2018 Posts: 389

fomalhaut · Posted: Wed Dec 06, 2023 11:22 am Post subject: Re: Is there any hope?

ChrisDuncan · Senior Member Joined: 17 May 2018 Posts: 389

danmusician · Posted: Sun Dec 17, 2023 8:13 pm Post subject:

These discussions usually miss the point of how product development works in a company like Korg. Product decisions are market driven. Price point drives the decision of what features and capabilities will be in an instrument.

They can make a product that can do anything musicians want. I'm confident that Korg already has prototypes in their R&D labs. The question is: can they do it at a price that enough musicians will buy to make it profitable?

Apparently, there are not enough of us who love the all-in-one workstation environment to drive a product to market. Maybe people prefer laptops or setting up multiple keyboards. We come on here and complain that we want something new and it seems like it would be enough to drive the market. If it were, Korg would deliver.

It's not they don't care. They are in business to make money.
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billysynth1 · Posted: Mon Dec 18, 2023 5:01 am Post subject:

I disagree, even low end companies like Kurzweil are making workstations…they are not as big as Korg yet they still deliver a workstation.

Workstations are very much in demand. Korg proved that with the Kronos running for 10 years.

Power house workstations are still in demand. Look at the Roland Fantom EX, and the Montage M8x….power house Stations full of controls and knobs.

People are waiting for the Kronos replacement with great anticipation.

The Nautilus just doesn’t cut it…it is inferior and made out of cheap parts, the touch screen is atrocious. Users want synthesiser controls: knobs, sliders, large touch screen, superior connectivity all in a high quality case.

The price point for a high quality product will be what it will be, if you can’t afford it buy the product which is the next level down. Simple.

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Scott · Platinum Member Joined: 16 Oct 2009 Posts: 1015

Koekepan · Platinum Member Joined: 27 Sep 2016 Posts: 617

Chiming in to agree with Scott. Kurzweil is not low end in anything but company size. The K2x00 line is legendary for excellent reasons, and the quality of the V.A.S.T. engine doesn't have to take a back seat to anyone. If I were in the market for a flagship workstation, I'd be shooting for the K2700 - and if unable to drum up the cash, I'd go for the PC4 which runs the same software.