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Editing Parameters and Sample Looping

 
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SeedyLee
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PostPosted: Sat Oct 07, 2023 4:37 am    Post subject: Editing Parameters and Sample Looping Reply with quote

Hello everyone!

I'm a bit of a noob to the Kross 2, having only owned it for about 6 months, but own a Kronos and have previously owned a Triton LE.

There's two things I am struggling to achieve with the Kross and I'm hoping some knowledgeable members can provide some pointers Smile

1) Is there a way to quickly edit parameters with a large range of values? For example, note duration in the sequencer has 480 ticks per measure - using the data wheel to increment this tick by tick for a full measure gives my wrist a very good workout. I know you can hold the up and down arrows too, but is there a quicker way to make course adjustments?

2) Has anyone found a good way of making tempo-synced loops with the sampler, either sampling the Kronos' own sounds or recording externally? I am hoping to use the sampler to compensate for the lack of effects and the best workflow I have come up with is to record a sample, convert it to a program or KSC, then trigger the samples from the sequencer with apporpriate decay settings, either using an arp or sequencer events. I have found triggering the pads directly from the sequencer a little hit and miss, but the workflow above is really time consuming. Has anyone found a good method?

On a related note, is there any way people have found tu be able tu use a metronome while resampling so it's possible to play to a set tempo?

Finally, anyone got a service manual for the Kross 2?

The sample looping capabilities in the Kross are ... limited ... so I am hoping that people with more experience with basic samplers can offer some battle-tested suggestions!

Otherwise I am mostly digging the Kross. Just wish the sampler was a little more capable and there were a few more full-fat effects slots (I feel Korg have been deliberately disingenuous in how they have advertised the specs here!).

Thanks,
Lee
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SeedyLee
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 03, 2023 4:34 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Concerning the looping of samples, I have developed a compendium documenting the various combinations of loop lengths of tempos that will result in perfect loops on the Kross. I shall post the results here.

I have been unsuccessful in finding a mechanism for rapidly editing parameter values.
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Previous: Triton LE 61/Sampling/64MB/4GB SCSI, MS2000BR, Kronos 1 61, Monotribe, NanoKontrol, NanoKeys, Kaossilator II, Casio HT3000, Roland VP-03, Reface DX, Novation Mininova, MPC One
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Koekepan
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 03, 2023 3:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I know that it's not on the board, but isn't there editor software for the Kross's sound design? I seem to remember that from somewhere, but maybe I'm confused.
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 08, 2023 11:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

There is indeed! Though the UI doesn’t scale well in Hi-DPI Mac screens, which is what I have.

But even changing things like tempo onboard the Kross is more of a hassle than it needs to be: because Tempo can be adjusted in .01 BPM increments, changing the tempo by 1 BPM needs one hundred rotations of the value dial!

Sigh. I get that Korg don’t want to cannibalise sales of their higher-end workstations, but things like this are just annoying.
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Previous: Triton LE 61/Sampling/64MB/4GB SCSI, MS2000BR, Kronos 1 61, Monotribe, NanoKontrol, NanoKeys, Kaossilator II, Casio HT3000, Roland VP-03, Reface DX, Novation Mininova, MPC One
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