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Buying a used Kronos X...what to look for?

 
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 11, 2022 8:36 am    Post subject: Buying a used Kronos X...what to look for? Reply with quote

Hi,
I'm buying a used Kronos X, what are the things I should look for while checking it out?

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PostPosted: Fri Feb 11, 2022 10:04 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The answer depends on the situation. Is this a private sale, a pawn shop, music store, or an auction site? Is it possible to view and play the keyboard before buying?

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PostPosted: Fri Feb 11, 2022 10:16 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

voip wrote:
The answer depends on the situation. Is this a private sale, a pawn shop, music store, or an auction site? Is it possible to view and play the keyboard before buying?

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Hi, it's a private sale and I'll have the opportunity to try it!
what do you suggest?
thank you!
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 11, 2022 12:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Playability, functionality, and appearance, would be the things to look at.

Take along a pair of headphones/earphones and a sustain pedal, and reading glasses, if needed. The Kronos audio ins and outs are all 1/4" jacks, so bring a 1/4" to 1/8" headphone adapter, if necessary. Ask the seller about the board's history and if there are any issues the Kronos has now or has had in the past. Check the Kronos boots up OK (it should take around two to two and a half minutes, depending on the sound packs that are loaded). Listen for fan noise (excessive fan noise is fixable).

If it's a Kronos LS, check for sinking keys (they are fixable), and check the following: all the keys play, and velocity sense OK (use an acoustic piano program); the controls are in good shape; the screen works (although it's a"TouchView" screen, it takes a bit of pressure from a fingernail to register, much like the Krome's screen). Check the sound quality and smooth operation of the volume control (and faders for a Combi), and the lack of pops, crackles, and hiss when keys are not being played (though note that a few Combis do have a "vinyl" crackle effect that is present even when keys are not being played). If there is hiss, check that the gain on the audio inputs is set to Line, and turned down. Check the joystick(s) and ribbon controller work ok (the vector joystick may not be set up to do much on some Programs and Combis, the joystick won't have any pitch bend effect on acoustic piano Programs).

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PostPosted: Fri Feb 11, 2022 11:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Should any existing sound expansion libraries (EXs) that were purchased by the original owner of that Kronos be a consideration for a resale buyer? Or are those EXs only usable by the original expansion library purchaser for that specific Kronos keyboard and do not transfer with the keyboard to a resale buyer?

I do not know how this licensing and reauthorization works, but it could be worth hundreds if not thousands of dollars potentially to the value of a resale keyboard depending on the answer.
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 15, 2022 3:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

voip wrote:
Playability, functionality, and appearance, would be the things to look at.

Take along a pair of headphones/earphones and a sustain pedal, and reading glasses, if needed. The Kronos audio ins and outs are all 1/4" jacks, so bring a 1/4" to 1/8" headphone adapter, if necessary. Ask the seller about the board's history and if there are any issues the Kronos has now or has had in the past. Check the Kronos boots up OK (it should take around two to two and a half minutes, depending on the sound packs that are loaded). Listen for fan noise (excessive fan noise is fixable).

If it's a Kronos LS, check for sinking keys (they are fixable), and check the following: all the keys play, and velocity sense OK (use an acoustic piano program); the controls are in good shape; the screen works (although it's a"TouchView" screen, it takes a bit of pressure from a fingernail to register, much like the Krome's screen). Check the sound quality and smooth operation of the volume control (and faders for a Combi), and the lack of pops, crackles, and hiss when keys are not being played (though note that a few Combis do have a "vinyl" crackle effect that is present even when keys are not being played). If there is hiss, check that the gain on the audio inputs is set to Line, and turned down. Check the joystick(s) and ribbon controller work ok (the vector joystick may not be set up to do much on some Programs and Combis, the joystick won't have any pitch bend effect on acoustic piano Programs).

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Thank you very much for writing that down, I really appreciate!!

Have a great day,
ciao!
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 15, 2022 7:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

bpoodoo wrote:
Should any existing sound expansion libraries (EXs) that were purchased by the original owner of that Kronos be a consideration for a resale buyer? Or are those EXs only usable by the original expansion library purchaser for that specific Kronos keyboard and do not transfer with the keyboard to a resale buyer?

I do not know how this licensing and reauthorization works, but it could be worth hundreds if not thousands of dollars potentially to the value of a resale keyboard depending on the answer.


The libraries are locked to up to three devices on one account. I don't think you can transfer to another account. However, since they are linked to the keyboard already, that person just needs to provide the codes to authorize them, should you have to delete and reinstall them for any reason. Also get backups of the files.
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 15, 2022 9:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

JonSolo wrote:

The libraries are locked to up to three devices on one account. I don't think you can transfer to another account. However, since they are linked to the keyboard already, that person just needs to provide the codes to authorize them, should you have to delete and reinstall them for any reason. Also get backups of the files.


Thanks JonSolo - it's good to know how that works.
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