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BigJohn



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PostPosted: Wed Jul 28, 2021 1:54 pm    Post subject: Transposing (Pa1000) Reply with quote

I cannot find any reference to a way of transposing in the owners handbook.

Changing octave is easy, but I sometimes wish to increase by two or three points for a final section.

Can transposing be done?
And how?
it must be possible.

John.
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siebenhirter
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 28, 2021 6:38 pm    Post subject: Re: Transposing (Pa1000) Reply with quote

BigJohn wrote:
.. Can transposing be done? ... it must be possible.


Yes . can be done and is possible

BigJohn wrote:
... I cannot find any reference to a way of transposing in the owners handbook...


... that is surprising, because as soon as using the search term "transpose" in the manual (v1.3) you get the page information of the chapter in the content, where all the information you are looking for is described in detail and understandably.

With them - if really not found - concrete answers are possible easier to specific than on general questions.

Found with "transpose":
171 Octave transpose and fine tuning
849 Master Transpose and Tuning
849 Master Tuning
850 Master Transpose

Really download and use the manual and don't put it too far from the keyboard - there's more inside than you think.

BigJohn wrote:
... absolutely bad Owners Manual and Quick Guide are no help at all except in the most simple way ...


...... this misjudgment has already been contradicted here (and in keyboardforums) . The simple search for the term you have not found (but easy is to do) shows that the manual is very well suited to get answered questions satisfactorily, promptly and and even much faster than posting it.
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 14, 2021 2:18 pm    Post subject: Transposing Reply with quote

I have a question for my musician friends using keyboard sounds.
Tenor Sax is B flat instrument, when you use this sound to play the same melody written for piano, do you have to transpose it?

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Al
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siebenhirter
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 14, 2021 3:18 pm    Post subject: Re: Transposing wind instruments Reply with quote

MusicLover400 wrote:
.... Tenor Sax is B flat instrument, when you use this sound to play the same melody written for piano, do you have to transpose it? ..


No, because a transposing instrument does not transpose, rather the notes for this instrument are usually written transposed, so that they match the pitch of a non-transposing instrument.

A problem only arises when a transposing instrument - e.g. B flat trumpet - uses the same notes together with a keyboarder, because then the trumpeter/saxophonist should be able to transpose so that the piece of music is played with the same pitch.

Therefore in music groups with wind instruments therefore music books are found with different transposed notation.
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 15, 2021 2:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thank you Siebenhirter, my question is for some who don't play from written notes for each instrument but learn the melody by ear using a scale, and piano sound but for variety they pick tenor sax, do they have to transpose the notes before playing it.
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 15, 2021 10:36 pm    Post subject: Learn transposing instrument by ear Reply with quote

MusicLover400 wrote:
Thank you Siebenhirter, my question is for some who don't play from written notes for each instrument but learn the melody by ear using a scale, and piano sound but for variety they pick tenor sax, do they have to transpose the notes before playing it.


But that is a strange question, because if you learn by ear, it is irrelevant which transposing instrument you play, because this transposition only results in connection with written notes - i.e. to see a note on the sheet of music, but this notes pitch not corresponds in nature.
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