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ChrisDuncan
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 Posted: Thu Jul 30, 2020 12:53 am Post subject: What does WS on a program indicate? |
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Many patches include SW 1/2 in the names to indicate that the switches are used, but I can't work out what the WS in some names is trying to tell me. Could someone clue me in, please?
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ChrisDuncan
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Thanks, Greg.
With the SW naming it tells me, "press the x switche(s) for different sounds"
What is WS / wave sequence naming convention telling me to do?
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GregC
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try this
Go to Program mode
find Motion synth. category.
tghere are 200 of them
note many have a SW 1 in the title
select one
watch for the SW1 light to go on or off
experiment with SW1 on or off. Note that Karma
scenes will interact with the Program
What SW1 does exactly, varies per program and use of Karma
You will hear it
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https://soundcloud.com/user-898236994/the-runnerwav
I composed a song last year using a Wave station Motion synth program
I think the Korg terminiology needs to be mapped out and documented.
Such as terms and definition.
its much easier to get on the same page once we have a ' common Korg language "
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ChrisDuncan
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| GregC wrote: | try this
Go to Program mode
find Motion synth. category.
tghere are 200 of them
note many have a SW 1 in the title
select one
watch for the SW1 light to go on or off
experiment with SW1 on or off. Note that Karma
scenes will interact with the Program
What SW1 does exactly, varies per program and use of Karma
You will hear it |
Sorry to be dense, I'm probably not communicating this well.
I do understand what the implications are when I see SW in the program title. It's telling me the switch is being used.
You've said that WS in the title means wave sequence. Very few programs have WS in the title, so I would expect that, like SW, the WS in the title would be telling me to use the program in a certain way. What that is, I don't understand.
Or does WS not indicate something that I can / should do with the program? If so, why would they put it in the title?
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| ChrisDuncan wrote: | Very few programs have WS in the title, so I would expect that, like SW, the WS in the title would be telling me to use the program in a certain way. What that is, I don't understand.
Or does WS not indicate something that I can / should do with the program? If so, why would they put it in the title? |
Hi Chris,
As you discovered, the WS in program titles doesn't mean much, since there is actually around 200 Kronos programs which use wavesequences. Some of those programs are near exact replicas of wavesequences from the Korg Wavestation, while others are new or there to achieve special goals.
For example, all stock Mellotron samples in the Kronos have a limited length just like the tapes in a real Mellotron (about 7 seconds), but if you go in Global mode under the Wave Seq tab, at the end of the INT bank there are several wavesequences designed to create infinite Mellotron loops. Wavesequences are actually very versatile, even though it takes time and effort to program them. |
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| KK wrote: | | ChrisDuncan wrote: | Very few programs have WS in the title, so I would expect that, like SW, the WS in the title would be telling me to use the program in a certain way. What that is, I don't understand.
Or does WS not indicate something that I can / should do with the program? If so, why would they put it in the title? |
Hi Chris,
As you discovered, the WS in program titles doesn't mean much, since there is actually around 200 Kronos programs which use wavesequences. Some of those programs are near exact replicas of wavesequences from the Korg Wavestation, while others are new or there to achieve special goals.
For example, all stock Mellotron samples in the Kronos have a limited length just like the tapes in a real Mellotron (about 7 seconds), but if you go in Global mode under the Wave Seq tab, at the end of the INT bank there are several wavesequences designed to create infinite Mellotron loops. Wavesequences are actually very versatile, even though it takes time and effort to program them. |
Okay, that's starting to make sense to me, thanks.
So I guess the reason for the WS, which is probably what Greg was also trying to say, is just to let you know that it's a wave sequence, in case you want to go in and play with that particular sort of critter. Nothing more than a label on the box that says, "this car has a 454 engine under the hood, in case you care about such things."
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I always thought WS indicates that the sound stems from the Wavestation synth in the 1990s?
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