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MichaelJK
Joined: 07 Feb 2016 Posts: 6 Location: Upper Midwest, US
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Posted: Mon Jan 13, 2020 2:31 am Post subject: Anyone with Kronos getting Wavestate? |
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I have a Kronos X-88. It is my main studio controller. I have been watching videos for the new Korg Wavestate that was just announced at NAMM. I know it shares some features with the Kronos (wavetable sequences), but it looks much more "hands on" (more controls, knobs, buttons, etc.). I am wondering if it would be redundant. Thoughts? _________________ KRONOS 2; Minilogue; Komplete Kontrol S25; Maschine Mikro; Apollo Twin; Mac Pro (2013) |
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Poseidon Senior Member
Joined: 08 Jul 2018 Posts: 373
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Posted: Mon Jan 13, 2020 4:10 am Post subject: |
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I would consider of getting the Wavestate, if there is 49-key version, an aftertouch, user samples, a substantial chunk of metal, and internal power supply.
something like this:
Hypothetical 49-keys Korg wavestate. ( Wavestate inside Blofeld ) |
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GregC Platinum Member
Joined: 15 May 2002 Posts: 9451 Location: Discovery Bay (San Francisco Bay Area)
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Posted: Mon Jan 13, 2020 2:47 pm Post subject: |
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There is some overlap, basic vector sythessis [ been around since the early 90's]
and motion sounds.
I understand the enthusiasm. Korg's and the retail demos are attractive.
Wavestate takes that synthesis type further and its entertaining.
I think there are keyboardists who have certain requirements, and a new board has to closely fit those plans/goals, what have you.
IOW, I am not an impulse purchaser.
for stuff under $400 I am not as picky.
$800 ? I am going to analyze that kind of purchase.
And it has to fit my production long term, 2 or more years.
For my song writing requirements, this $800 purchase falls short. A 37 key is almost useless for me. It doesn't begin to fit my rig configuration. Poseidon made solid points above. I also need a larger LCD with contrast.
I am not much for following the crowd with new gear. I don't do buy and try and return or sell later. _________________ Kronos 88. MODX8
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voip Platinum Member
Joined: 27 Nov 2014 Posts: 3777
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Posted: Mon Jan 13, 2020 5:05 pm Post subject: |
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To go beyond its 37 keys, the Wavestate could be used as a sound module, triggered over MIDI by e.g. the Kronos. It responds to note numbers 0-127, though not all sounds will play across the entire note range.
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SKung Full Member
Joined: 20 Aug 2011 Posts: 179
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Posted: Mon Jan 13, 2020 5:37 pm Post subject: |
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Sorry, not without digital audio output. Don't we live in 2020? According to the manual USB is for MIDI only. |
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GregC Platinum Member
Joined: 15 May 2002 Posts: 9451 Location: Discovery Bay (San Francisco Bay Area)
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Posted: Mon Jan 13, 2020 6:23 pm Post subject: |
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Sure. Form factor is almost as important as sound
To emphasize a desktop could potentially fit on the chassis of an 88 _________________ Kronos 88. MODX8
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Mike Conway Approved Merchant
Joined: 28 Jan 2005 Posts: 2433 Location: Las Vegas, Nevada
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Posted: Mon Jan 13, 2020 9:14 pm Post subject: |
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I probably won't get the Wavestate, since it doesn't allow user samples. I like the form factor, but the screen is small.
I could see Kronos users buying it for the ready made presets. It would definitely be a nice size travel synth. |
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BobTheDog Platinum Member
Joined: 21 May 2007 Posts: 1535
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Posted: Mon Jan 13, 2020 9:53 pm Post subject: |
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If they did a module version and added MPE I would be interested, it looks neat to me. |
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Lightbringer Senior Member
Joined: 07 Jan 2018 Posts: 356 Location: USA
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Posted: Mon Jan 13, 2020 11:11 pm Post subject: |
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Probably not me, at least not right now. Just don't think I can justify it in addition to the Kronos, despite it having some new features and hands on controls.
One of the core reasons for me getting a Kronos in the first place was to have one board that does it all. |
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Poseidon Senior Member
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burningbusch Approved Merchant
Joined: 30 Jan 2005 Posts: 1203 Location: Seattle
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Posted: Tue Jan 14, 2020 4:46 am Post subject: |
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Hell yes, I'm getting one. I love the sounds I'm hearing in the many demos. I guess over time my ears have become bored with static tones and I'm more and more attracted to movement, complexity and the evolution of the sound over time. So the Wavestate hits home for me. Yes, the Kronos does wave sequencing/vector synthesis but to dial in your own sounds requires a great deal of patience. And the Wavestate goes far beyond the Kronos. With the Wavestate, I can imagine finding a preset that's 90% there and with the front panel controls dialing it in and personalizing it. That's the thing. I don't like using presets on my tracks. I like to personalize my sounds and the Wavestate looks like it makes personalizing complex sounds pretty damn straightforward.
Look at the depth of this thing. In a four-layer performance, you can have 4 vector EGs, 12 ADSRs, 16 LFOs, 8 mod processors, four lanes of wave sequences and four arpeggiators. It features nearly limitless modulation routings.
And, to my knowledge, there's no soft synth that does what this can do. I can't say that about very many hardware pieces. Most of the time, software is a better option for me, both in terms of sound and workflow.
Only $800. So yeah, I'm getting one.
Busch. _________________ Kronos 73, Nautilus 61, Vox Continental 73, Monologue, Yamaha Montage 8, Rhodes Suitcase, Yamaha VL-1, Roland V-Synth, Yamaha AvantGrand, Minimoog Model D, Studio Electronics Omega 8, CSS, Spitfire, VSL, LASS, Sample Modeling, Ivory, Komplete 12, Spectrasonics, Cubase, Pro Tools, etc.
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Poseidon Senior Member
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Posted: Tue Jan 14, 2020 8:22 am Post subject: |
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I would speculate that in a few months we will see Wavestate Pro or XD.
It would probably come out in two versions: module and keyboard, and with expandable samples. |
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Poseidon Senior Member
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GregC Platinum Member
Joined: 15 May 2002 Posts: 9451 Location: Discovery Bay (San Francisco Bay Area)
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Posted: Tue Jan 14, 2020 4:30 pm Post subject: |
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I haven't heard it ,yet.
On paper and per spec, I prefer Nords thorough approach. I know this is $2600.
In my perfect world , I prefer Korg take the premium performance synth approach. It would be more exciting and long term for what I do. _________________ Kronos 88. MODX8
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Derek Cook Approved Merchant
Joined: 20 Jul 2014 Posts: 1279 Location: Wales, UK
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Posted: Tue Jan 14, 2020 5:14 pm Post subject: |
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I love the update of the concept, but hate the form factor (3 octave, no aftertouch) and I have no space for more keyboards. A paid upgrade for HD-1 or a VST version would give me instant GAS! _________________ Derek Cook - Java Developer
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