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eric2800
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Posted: Sat Oct 19, 2019 11:22 pm Post subject: user drum kits |
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Just bought PA700. Awesome board but can be complicated. This was my second day getting used to it. Think I have learned alot. I downloaded some piano samples and osimo (I think thats the correct spelling).
Here's my main issue at the moment. So I edited a style and put it in a user bank. I edited a drumkit and saved it to a user bank. And they are there. So then I set the lower instrument on keyboard to my custom drumkit. But the kit that plays is not my custom one. I don't know what is playing. Some drumkit but not mine. The key mapping is wrong too. In my custom kit the F key is a low tom but playing that key is a cymbal when in style mode.
If anyone can help Thanks.
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Biggles Platinum Member
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eric2800
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Posted: Sun Oct 20, 2019 1:50 pm Post subject: |
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Thanks Biggles,
Alright, I had looked at that post of yours and it along with others here have helped a great deal in learning. I have isolated it to just the drumkit. So custom and user stuff shouldn't matter. Ok so when I switch the lower sound in a stock style to a stock drum kit and play that kit below the split point at the first F on keyboard it is a high pitched percussion like a cymbal. But when I go to sound editor and don't change anything just hit the F it says lower tom and sounds like a tom. Hoping someone can help.Maybe I am completely lost on the sound editing but I am not editing, just hitting the key to play it.
Also I just tried unlocking styles and copying and reedit the style but same thing happens.
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eric2800
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Posted: Sun Oct 20, 2019 4:23 pm Post subject: |
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I continued working through the manual and I think the problem is to do with the key mapping of a drum kit in sound mode edit to the lower track in a style. What resource is there for editing a drum kit and putting it in a style?
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eric2800
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Posted: Sun Oct 20, 2019 5:11 pm Post subject: |
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Ok I will try to explain better and concisely. If I have a user drumkit in sound mode and go to menu -> drumkit to edit but I do not edit it. I just look at the key assignments. I hit the keys that map to sounds but again don't edit it. Now when I go to style with that same kit as the lower track on keyboard and it is there, The keys map to some other sound. Only the lowest C and D have a real kick bass sound. This happens even in a factory style and drumkit. In other words I don't understand what the key assignments mean in the sound edit mode if they don't correspond to the keys when it becomes a lower instrument. I think that is the issue. |
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eric2800
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Posted: Sun Oct 20, 2019 5:45 pm Post subject: |
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It is all about the key mappings I put my custom kit as the upper with no split. The drums from kit play from a key an octave higher. Don't know how to map it to keys I want. Probably complicated. But if anyone knows that would be great.
Also how do you save a style as song or what is best way?
Other than that I think I have a learned quite a bit and hoping to do something productive in coming days. |
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eric2800
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Posted: Sun Oct 20, 2019 6:34 pm Post subject: |
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Alright figured it out. LOL
In the style hit on the lower track on keyboard hit menu and go to tuning page and chande octave down to 0 and the kit will play just like in sound and will lose the higher drumkit sounds. The whole time I was just losing the lower keys of drumkit. Didn't have much drums, mostly cymbals and high pitched percussion. |
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Biggles Platinum Member
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Posted: Sun Oct 20, 2019 8:46 pm Post subject: |
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Glad you figured it out.
I may be totally wrong but I presume that the PA’s are programmed by Techs rather than actual Musicians hence a slightly different mindset application can help to resolve an actual or perceived problem. _________________ Biggles
Lancashire, UK |
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