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Hydrasynth features compared to Kronos
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psionic311
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 09, 2019 7:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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There's one word you said which seems important to me : interpolation". It is very significative of the difference with "blending". Interpolation between two or more waves.
In the last video you've mentionned, we can here (and see) this interpolation (from 23:57).

What I wonder now : would we be sure to be able, just with our ears, to make the difference ? Saw - morph - Square / Saw - Blend - Square ? Interesting subject, for sure !


Many analog synths can blend these basic waves for decades now.
Since they are full of harmonics, they sound very similar, like brown to orange.
Interpolating between them probably sounds very similar to blending.

Complex waves are much more colorful: bells, clangs, voice, metal
Morphing between these is much more interesting, like Las Vegas neon lights.
The real joy then is animating your new wave-morph-table, slowly or mechanically.
This fine control over the sound is what makes it unique.

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Its sounds are quite cold, almost acid tones, I think. But it certain that for the price its a good deal. And it has something very innovative. Do you think you will get yours soon ?


Variety is the spice of life.
After you've tasted spicy foods,
meat and potatoes, bread and butter,
all become more bland.

I pre-ordered already, it's supposed to ship by mid-November. Cool

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I saw above that you have a Moog One ! Great ! I'm sure you've got wonderful sounds with it ?

Is it possible in the Hydrasynth, or in Serum, to download two custom samples (whatever they be), and create a morphing between the both ?


I really like the Moog One SVF filters.
You can vary the spacing between its dual modes.
The One has a very big sound.
It's a sonic playground, great intuitive UI.
It's a shame that I still prefer going to the Kronos daily, not the One.

In Serum, you can import what you like.
You can even import a picture, and it will create a wavetable from that!

There has been no mention of importing into the Hydrasynth.
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 10, 2019 1:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

psionic311 wrote:
In Serum, you can import what you like.
You can even import a picture, and it will create a wavetable from that!


That makes me want to do a test with serum.

psionic311 wrote:

I really like the Moog One SVF filters.
You can vary the spacing between its dual modes.
The One has a very big sound.
It's a sonic playground, great intuitive UI.
It's a shame that I still prefer going to the Kronos daily, not the One.


Like the Grandmother, there is an Audio Input on Moog One. Did you try to send a Kronos audio output (one of the 4 individuals) into the M1 audio in, through Moog filters and then back in the Kronos in Analog Input ? I guess it would be quite interesting to treat a Mod7 sound into the Moog filters !!
I didn't test it yet in the Grandmother but I will soon.
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 10, 2019 8:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

You know, I haven't tried that yet!
MOD7 thru Moog SVF .... Cool
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 11, 2019 9:38 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

psionic311 wrote:
You know, I haven't tried that yet!
MOD7 thru Moog SVF .... Cool


So, I tested it yesterday. Not particularely with MOD7 for the moment but quickly with some random prog.
The result is interesting and I suppose we can get some results.
Although the Grandmother is monophonic, its possible to send all polyphonic sounds into the GM filter. That's one point. One other point : the GM provides e vintage true spring reverb in it, a kind of reverb the Kronos doesn't provide.
I'm sure there are other possibilities.
I can imagine waht could be the results and the possibilities with your Moog One !!!
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 11, 2019 7:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I bet that Grandmother sounds fat and warm.....!

I've learned so much about synthesis in the last year.
One lesson is on "warmth and character".
Having different synths trains your ear for the quality differences.

The Kronos sometimes is not so warm, more hifi.
But it can be made closer to the analogs:
EQ
compression, -100 Edge in AL1
Stereo Tube Preamp
Guitar and Bass amp and cab sims
AL1 amp drive and bass boost
polyphonic unison on just 2 voices, slight detune

What methods have you used to get "warmer" sounds?
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