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rikkisbears
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 Posted: Tue Sep 06, 2016 12:04 am Post subject: USB sticks not working with direct play |
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Hi
wondering if anyone else has had problems with usb sticks that aren't recognised , ie don't work with Direct Play function. The icon stays light grey, same is if no stick was plugged in. I plugged them in the front port.
I found 8 out of the 10 I have don't work.
6 are more than 3 years old. 8 gigs and under.
2 are brand new ( they're actually for my laptop) 128 gigs.
The only 2 that do work are a Sandisk 16 gig I bought recently for the pa4x
And a sandisk cruzer 8 gig I bought a couple or so years ago for my pa3x.
All of them load and save pa4x files via media
But 8 of them don't function with direct play.
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karmathanever
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| Posted: Tue Sep 06, 2016 12:59 am Post subject: |
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I'll try it tonight.
I have a vague feeling that this issue has been reported before (a while ago)
Will get back to you
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AntonySharmman
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| Posted: Tue Sep 06, 2016 1:19 am Post subject: |
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Rikki , save data of those USB sticks that do not be recognized by your Pa4X , format them on your Pa4X and try again !
Until now I haven't found even one that not working with Pa4x from 1 up to 128 Gb including latest USB3 thumb drives using
media or Direct function !
Also do not edit .SET files or folders using PC or Mac since you add security meta data on files that can't be recognized by PaSeries !
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rikkisbears
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| Posted: Tue Sep 06, 2016 1:52 am Post subject: |
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Thanks Guys,
I actually tried formatting a couple of them, made no difference, maybe just too old?
The 2 128 gigs I don't want to touch they're for my laptop. Yet the same stick in the 16 gig version works perfectly.
They all work Perfectly with the Media function, just don't appear to be recognised at all in direct play, as if I had nothing plugged in.
I was actually trying to help a friend who couldn't access direct play mode, his USB stick functions for media file stuff, perfectly well.
We thought he might be doing something wrong. I happened yo grab one of these old sticks ( works in pa3x) and no direct play mode, but I was able to save styles on it.
Strangely enough I have been using korg pa manager to organise my pa3x files, for pa4x , but these files appear to work perfectly on my 16 gig stick in user direct mode.
Weird isn 't it.
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Deane
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| Posted: Tue Sep 06, 2016 3:48 am Post subject: |
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Hi Rikki,
Had the same issue. After I formatted the non-working thumb drives on the PA4X they worked great. I have dozens of thumb drives from years back too - they all worked after formatting them on the keyboard.
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rikkisbears
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| Posted: Tue Sep 06, 2016 11:33 am Post subject: |
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Hi everyone
Thank you.
I ended up throwing out 3 of them. Think they must have just been too old.
The other 3 , I am embarrassed to say , were actually ok.
When my good one was plugged in, the direct icon always showed up as dark grey. Same as the factory , and user icons.
When I plugged in the faulty ones. The icon was light grey. So assumed they were all faulty.
Wasn 't till I plugged my good one in the back in and what I thought was a faulty one in the front, the dark icon showed up again and I realised I could access both USB drives.
Still having problem with icon showing up as light grey (even on my good one. )
Turn pa4x off, when I turn it on again later, might show up as dark grey.
Intermittent , but at least they appear to be working.
So thanks guys.
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AntonySharmman
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| Posted: Tue Sep 06, 2016 12:46 pm Post subject: |
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Though it's assumed that you know how Direct function works , may I ask the obvious ?
While in STYLE PLAY or KBD SET Library did you pressed upper screen scroll down menu/Direct Preferences
and picked up from those USB drives the desired xxx.SET you want to assign with Direct function ?
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rikkisbears
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| Posted: Tue Sep 06, 2016 10:31 pm Post subject: |
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| AntonySharmman wrote: | Though it's assumed that you know how Direct function works , may I ask the obvious ?
While in STYLE PLAY or KBD SET Library did you pressed upper screen scroll down menu/Direct Preferences
and picked up from those USB drives the desired xxx.SET you want to assign with Direct function ? |
Hi Antony,
embarrassingly I must admit I obviously didn't exactly know how it worked. Haha.
My assumption was that that the 3 icons factory, user direct had to be dark grey ( turning yellow when touched) and that the USB stick was only accessible when the Direct icon was the dark grey color.
I thought the light grey colour meant that I couldn't use direct access function.
It turned light grey when I unplugged my USB, always turned dark grey when it was plugged back in.
Can't beleive I didn't think to just check the drop down menu.
I didn't even realise I can use the internal hard drive ( empty currently)
for direct access, because when I pressed direct preference it automatically came up with USB f and my set folders.
I had mistakenly thought direct play was only a USB function.
Now even if icon is only showing light grey , I'll check the DROP DOWN menu
first before making assumption USB stick isn't working.
In my defence though, 3 of mine were faulty, not much of an excuse. Haha
Maybe a very minor bug if some USB sticks ,when plugged in, causes the icon to show up as light grey and sometimes dark grey ?
Anyway, thank you.
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rikkisbears
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| Posted: Tue Sep 06, 2016 10:31 pm Post subject: |
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| AntonySharmman wrote: | Though it's assumed that you know how Direct function works , may I ask the obvious ?
While in STYLE PLAY or KBD SET Library did you pressed upper screen scroll down menu/Direct Preferences
and picked up from those USB drives the desired xxx.SET you want to assign with Direct function ? |
Hi Antony,
embarrassingly I must admit I obviously didn't exactly know how it worked. Haha.
My assumption was that that the 3 icons factory, user direct had to be dark grey ( turning yellow when touched) and that the USB stick was only accessible when the Direct icon was the dark grey color.
I thought the light grey colour meant that I couldn't use direct access function.
It turned light grey when I unplugged my USB, always turned dark grey when it was plugged back in.
Can't beleive I didn't think to just check the drop down menu.
I didn't even realise I can use the internal hard drive ( empty currently)
for direct access, because when I pressed direct preference it automatically came up with USB f and my set folders.
I had mistakenly thought direct play was only a USB function.
Now even if icon is only showing light grey , I'll check the DROP DOWN menu
first before making assumption USB stick isn't working.
Maybe a very minor bug if some USB sticks ,when plugged in, causes the icon to show up as light grey and sometimes dark grey ?
thank you Antony.
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AntonySharmman
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| Posted: Tue Sep 06, 2016 11:49 pm Post subject: |
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| rikkisbears wrote: | | Maybe a very minor bug if some USB sticks ,when plugged in, causes the icon to show up as light grey and sometimes dark grey ? |
Rikki let me make it clear for you , since you still don't get it !
Pa4X OS temporary memorizes the latest X.SET address , if you unplug USB thumb drive then automatically
"Direct" tab gets gray until you insert it again.
If you assign Direct function with another Z.SET from another flash drive , and then you exchange thumb drives with one that
contains X.SET you had worked before ,then tab will be gray again until you re-assign Direct function with X.SET again !
Not a minor bug nor anything ... simple logic function ! and for God's sake , don't throw working thump drives in trash !
Hope this helps
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rikkisbears
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| Posted: Wed Sep 07, 2016 12:53 am Post subject: |
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| AntonySharmman wrote: | | rikkisbears wrote: | | Maybe a very minor bug if some USB sticks ,when plugged in, causes the icon to show up as light grey and sometimes dark grey ? |
Rikki let me make it clear for you , since you still don't get it !
Pa4X OS temporary memorizes the latest X.SET address , if you unplug USB thumb drive then automatically
"Direct" tab gets gray until you insert it again.
If you assign Direct function with another Z.SET from another flash drive , and then you exchange thumb drives with one that
contains X.SET you had worked before ,then tab will be gray again until you re-assign Direct function with X.SET again !
Not a minor bug nor anything ... simple logic function ! and for God's sake , don't throw working thump drives in trash !
Hope this helps |
Hi Anthony,
THANK YOU
finally makes sense.
No, don't worry , I did throw 3 of them out. I think they were far, far , older than I thought. They were only 1 and 2 gig. One I couldn't even format, the other 2 , I was going to use as a backup for my pa800 files.
What took about 20 seconds to transfer PC to a USB 3 stick, was taking about 10 minutes or more on these old drives. Probably not faulty after all, just super slow.
Safer to spend a few dollars and get some new ones if I need them.
Really appreciate your time and help.
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AntonySharmman
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| Posted: Wed Sep 07, 2016 1:55 am Post subject: |
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| rikkisbears wrote: |
What took about 20 seconds to transfer PC to a USB 3 stick, was taking about 10 minutes or more on these old drives. |
By the way , remember that a SET for exclussive use in Direct function , do not need PCM
so do not waste time copying the whole SET !
Therefore open those sets in your PC/Mac and always delete all other included files in SET
except KEYBOARDSET & STYLES , that are the only files that "Direct" function will read !
This way , a SET needs 10 seconds the most to be copied at the slowest USB flash drive !
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rikkisbears
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| Posted: Wed Sep 07, 2016 2:23 am Post subject: |
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| AntonySharmman wrote: | | rikkisbears wrote: |
What took about 20 seconds to transfer PC to a USB 3 stick, was taking about 10 minutes or more on these old drives. |
By the way , remember that a SET for exclussive use in Direct function , do not need PCM
so do not waste time copying the whole SET !
Therefore open those sets in your PC/Mac and always delete all other included files in SET
except KEYBOARDSET & STYLES , that are the only files that "Direct" function will read !
This way , a SET needs 10 seconds the most to be copied at the slowest USB flash drive ! |
Thank you Antony
handy to know.
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| Posted: Wed Mar 06, 2019 7:57 am Post subject: PA4X not reading usb stick (f) |
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| PA4X not reading usb stick (f)...and after “korg disk/sd connection” enable, still no access to the usb stick. Exit doesn’t work at this point and even after usb stick is removed, the only way “out” is to power it off. Said usb stick is 64gb and works fine in any windows computer. I dinmt wven get to format it in the PA4X. What am I doing wrong?[/b] |
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karmathanever
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Do other USB sticks work OK?
Try a different brand of USB - some are not good.
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