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Liviou2004
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 12, 2017 1:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

voip wrote:
Two delays in parallel. The first delay, with a long delay time, and no effects or feedback, the second with shorter delay time and with feedback or multitap and any effects that you are able to add.

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Yes they must be in parallel. I suppose the only way to get it in stereo is to put the same program in two combination channels, then doing as you said.

Or, as Rigel said :
Rigel wrote:
I would use a combi. The first part/timber is 100% wet signal of your particular program, which gives out only the delayed sound, the second part/timber has the identical program but starts to sound after a delay that you can determine in combi delay settings.


EDIT : I suppose it would be possible in Program Mode that way :
- two identical OSC (OSC1 = OSC2)
- In "Bus Select" : EXi 1 & 2 to OFF (no signal toward L/R output) thus, OSC1 and OSC2 are not mixed.
- In "Exi MFX SEnd" :
OSC1 Send1 (to MFX1) 127
OSC1 Send2 (to MFX2) 0
OSC2 Send1 (to MFX1) 0
OSC2 Send2 (to MFX2) 127
- One delay without feedback (the original sound) in MFX1
- Another Effect (multitap or another effect) in MFX2

The downside of that process is IFXs are unusable.
Quite funny to try but the Combi method seems more efficient !

Well, I will try and come back !
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 12, 2017 2:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Liviou2004 wrote:
voip wrote:
Two delays in parallel. The first delay, with a long delay time, and no effects or feedback, the second with shorter delay time and with feedback or multitap and any effects that you are able to add.

.


Yes they must be in parallel. I suppose the only way to get it in stereo is to put the same program in two combination channels, then doing as you said.

Or, as Rigel said :
Rigel wrote:
I would use a combi. The first part/timber is 100% wet signal of your particular program, which gives out only the delayed sound, the second part/timber has the identical program but starts to sound after a delay that you can determine in combi delay settings.


EDIT : I suppose it would be possible in Program Mode that way :
- two identical OSC (OSC1 = OSC2)
- In "Bus Select" : EXi 1 & 2 to OFF (no signal toward L/R output) thus, OSC1 and OSC2 are not mixed.
- In "Exi MFX SEnd" :
OSC1 Send1 (to MFX1) 127
OSC1 Send2 (to MFX2) 0
OSC2 Send1 (to MFX1) 0
OSC2 Send2 (to MFX2) 127
- One delay without feedback (the original sound) in MFX1
- Another Effect (multitap or another effect) in MFX2

The downside of that process is IFXs are unusable.
Quite funny to try but the Combi method seems more efficient !

Well, I will try and come back !


read my reply above.
you can use ifx using fx bus and then assign one of the ifx slots to monitor (gate or compressor) that bus.
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 12, 2017 3:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Liviou2004 wrote:
SanderXpander wrote:
Half guessing from what you want to do I would say Pete M is right, but you may be talking about a reversed reverb rather than a delay? You would get, in reverse, a swelling reverb sound first, ending with the dry sound.


Thanks but as I said :
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I want to specify that it has nothing to do with "Reverse Delay" !
I really don't want a reversed delay.

That's why I asked if you perhaps meant a reversed reverb Smile
But good luck experimenting, I look forward to hearing an example of the end result.
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 13, 2017 6:39 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well, I did a test yesterday. Two methods based on initialized Combination., channel 1 and 2 set on the same Program.


Method 1 : Delayed Dry Timbre (page 2-4) on channel 1, on the left side (L0001)
Direct Effect Timbre on channel 2, placed on the right side (R127)

This config did the job but the downside : I had to keep the keys down until timbre 1 sounded. Not really convenient.

Method 2 : process only based on effects.
Channel 1 routed to a simple IFX Delay (077 : L/C/R Delay, L and C levels set to 0) without any feedback (as direct but delayed dry sound) on the left side.
Channel 2 routed to O-verb + Pitch Shifter and so on (for example, any other set is good). Dry/Wet setting placed on "WET'. On the Right side.

This second method works very well and opens a large field of possibilities. For this test I willingly separated the both signals, one on the leftside, the other one on the right side.
I didn't test it with a voice yet. It'll be the next step.
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