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PostPosted: Tue Oct 18, 2016 4:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have owned several Korg "flagships" over the years and I think that the term has become overused in retail marketing. Now at 60+, I would like to scale down and will probably buy the latest Korg Kronos keyboard in 2017, probably a 73 key with a warranty and with the latest bells, whistles and with the latest operating system. I would be happy with this choice in my studio. The gigging has quieted down now, it's just for fun. Time to really learn all the features of the Kronos and explore it. A one-does-all high-end professional workstation with the Korg name on it sounds like a very good buy to me. Cheers.
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 19, 2016 8:02 am    Post subject: Re: Kronos rack Reply with quote

fcoulter wrote:
chini wrote:
I know I've exclaimed this before but I still believe Korg will release a rack version before they release a new flagship keyboard.


.....The question would then be whether they want to replicate the entire Kronos user interface on the front of the rack, or have it mostly programmable via computer.

Interesting philosophical questions that Korg has to face, assuming they're making a rack mount Kronos.

I personally would be happy with either of these Kronos versions



but as this was stressed many times already, Korg just won't do that and not because that is technically impossible, but apparently because of financial (investment in development) and marketing/sales reasons/considerations.
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 19, 2016 12:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Maybe the next workstation has the new NuTube onboard which KORG announced last year? This Summer it was scheduled to go on sale, so it should be available by now.
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 19, 2016 12:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Jan1 wrote:
Maybe the next workstation has the new NuTube onboard which KORG announced last year? This Summer it was scheduled to go on sale, so it should be available by now.


In another wishlist thread, I also mentioned that it would be very cool (warm?) if Korg used the NuTube in a next-gen Kronos. We can dream...
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 19, 2016 2:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

gnbutt wrote:
I have owned several Korg "flagships" over the years and I think that the term has become overused in retail marketing. Now at 60+, I would like to scale down and will probably buy the latest Korg Kronos keyboard in 2017, probably a 73 key with a warranty and with the latest bells, whistles and with the latest operating system. I would be happy with this choice in my studio. The gigging has quieted down now, it's just for fun. Time to really learn all the features of the Kronos and explore it. A one-does-all high-end professional workstation with the Korg name on it sounds like a very good buy to me. Cheers.

I've had virtually everything in your signature, and have heavily used Fantoms and Motifs. I'm much happier with just the Kronos 61, an 88-key controller, and a real-deal Hammond/Leslie for home. I should mention that I also have a wonderful piano as well, but rarely get to play it due to work schedule and young kids at home. I don't lose much by practicing and composing with the Kronos, least of all inspiration.

The ability to write, practice, record AND gig with ALL of my sounds under one arm is priceless. I also had no trouble replicating all my old (but important!) Trinity and Triton sounds in the Kronos.

Do yourself a favor. Sell all that stuff. You won't be sorry.
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 19, 2016 2:58 pm    Post subject: Re: Kronos rack Reply with quote

gjvti wrote:
fcoulter wrote:
chini wrote:
I know I've exclaimed this before but I still believe Korg will release a rack version before they release a new flagship keyboard.


.....The question would then be whether they want to replicate the entire Kronos user interface on the front of the rack, or have it mostly programmable via computer.

Interesting philosophical questions that Korg has to face, assuming they're making a rack mount Kronos.

I personally would be happy with either of these Kronos versions



but as this was stressed many times already, Korg just won't do that and not because that is technically impossible, but apparently because of financial (investment in development) and marketing/sales reasons/considerations.

I still want to see a weighted 76-key A-to-C keyboard with the left-side controllers above the keyboard. This would save so much space and a fair bit of weight, yet compromise very little in terms of playability and ergonomics.

E-to-G and left-side controls are huge compromises for players that choose 76 keys to shave bulk yet get close to piano range. E-to-G especially makes no sense with weighted keys.
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 19, 2016 3:03 pm    Post subject: Re: Kronos rack Reply with quote

[quote="Zeroesque"][quote="gjvti"]
fcoulter wrote:
chini wrote:
I know I've exclaimed this be(investment in development) and marketing/sales reasons/considerations.

I still want to see a weighted 76-key A-to-C keyboard with the left-side controllers above the keyboard. This would save so much space and a fair bit of weight, yet compromise very little in terms of playability and ergonomics.

E-to-G and left-side controls are huge compromises for players that choose 76 keys to shave bulk yet get close to piano range. E-to-G especially makes no sense with weighted keys.


The LCD occupies 8" in the middle of the keyboard. I can't see any 'left hand controls' below that. Would you give up the LCD ?
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 19, 2016 4:10 pm    Post subject: Re: Kronos rack Reply with quote

GregC wrote:
The LCD occupies 8" in the middle of the keyboard. I can't see any 'left hand controls' below that. Would you give up the LCD ?


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PostPosted: Wed Oct 19, 2016 4:26 pm    Post subject: Re: Kronos rack Reply with quote

Zeroesque wrote:
GregC wrote:
The LCD occupies 8" in the middle of the keyboard. I can't see any 'left hand controls' below that. Would you give up the LCD ?



oh, those left hand controls.

the headphone outlet would have to be re-located.

its possible that Korg just has a template for all their w/s models to be designed the way they are.

I haven't popped the bottom hatch lately to see what electronics are to the left of the vector.
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 19, 2016 5:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

may be they work on the layout & control-surface/controls & the interface .. i loved the led strips beside the slides on the oyasis & also NI did a great job with the displays under the knobs - it would be nice if korg give more care about the physical controls & the interface other than the interface on the touch screen - and a nice thing also is letting a single control possible to assign it to multiple tasks simultaneously like letting the ribbon-bar under the joystick acts as the super-knob on the montage - and please korg look after the matter of the portability of the instrument - i don't like it to be over sized in it's depth & height - i love it to be wide enough
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 19, 2016 5:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

i did design & upload this workstation sometime before

https://3dwarehouse.sketchup.com/model.html?id=eae4cd32-750d-4fd4-8aef-404bde3506c5
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 02, 2016 3:07 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Purpleibby here(got my original John01W account back)....

on the topic of this, some words from Nick Kwas, Korg product specialist on the monolog reddit on Nov 1st...someone asked Nick:

"I LOVE MY TRITON! But it is so outdated. I do really love the Kronos, but I wonder whether a new workstation is on the way, maybe one that has an analog engine built in?"

Nicks reply was:

"Kronos is still our absolute top of the line, and it won't stop being supported any time soon. We're also constantly updating it and putting out new sound packs. There's a reason we call it the most powerful synthesizer on the planet!"
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PostPosted: Sat Dec 03, 2016 2:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

John01W wrote:
Purpleibby here(got my original John01W account back)....

on the topic of this, some words from Nick Kwas, Korg product specialist on the monolog reddit on Nov 1st...someone asked Nick:

"I LOVE MY TRITON! But it is so outdated. I do really love the Kronos, but I wonder whether a new workstation is on the way, maybe one that has an analog engine built in?"

Nicks reply was:

"Kronos is still our absolute top of the line, and it won't stop being supported any time soon. We're also constantly updating it and putting out new sound packs. There's a reason we call it the most powerful synthesizer on the planet!"


Thought I would dust off this ' old ' topic.

I noticed that Nick somewhat ducked the question. Likely he is bound by an NDA. And would never tip his hand if a MORE powerful w/s synth is in the next 60 day launch window ( thru Jan NAMM).

I am observing there is no shortage of K2's in the US marketplace. I am unaware of any Korg sponsored price drops to move out K2's from the retail channel. I cannot speak to any conditions like this outside the US.

Therefore, I don't see Korg launching a MORE powerful w/s synth by Jan NAMM 2017. And I don't believe the "LS" prototype at the Gakki fair is more powerful.

Your budgets can breathe easier and you can still take the wife/girlfriend on that expensive vacation Wink
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