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GregC Platinum Member
Joined: 15 May 2002 Posts: 9451 Location: Discovery Bay (San Francisco Bay Area)
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Posted: Fri Mar 11, 2016 10:50 pm Post subject: |
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michelkeijzers wrote: | GregC wrote: | jeremykeys wrote: | Simply the best peice of musical gear that I have ever owned bar none. Every day that I play it I'm blown away! I truly mean that. Every single day!
I'm just amazed that none of the other synth manufacturers have even tried to compete. By now you would have expected them to have but no. |
I think Korg got on the right architecture path with Oasys PCI and the Oasys keyboard, of course. From there, it was decisions to get the cost down, make improvements and allow it to evolve with its OS. I think we are fortunate to enjoy all the effort and planning by Korg. |
Same feeling here ... we always should thank the Oasys buyers to spend so much money on gear that is now considered the best 'all round' synth/workstation. |
well said. a BIG thanks to Oasys buyers. Without them,.... it would be a different story. _________________ Kronos 88. MODX8
Achieve your musical dreams
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runningman67 Platinum Member
Joined: 06 Aug 2011 Posts: 1663 Location: Manchester UK
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Posted: Sat Mar 12, 2016 12:16 am Post subject: |
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You have......
An Orchestra
A synthesiser
A choir
A studio
Hours of hard slog with genuine hope of brilliance
A means of expression, fulfilment, imagination, expression
A chance to actually finish off and complete your journey
Every colour of sound from the ridiculous to the sublime
Effects that describe the universe
A friend a mistress a companion
A forum that connects people, all colours, creeds and sex
A steroid for your potential
It's genius, magnificent, beautiful, crazy, alive.
It is an historic accomplishment, so much for so little. Legendary
Keyboard that in the era of software music and prefabricated plastic
regurgitated, recycled convenience compositions, Kronos is a God,
Proud immortal and true.
(Yep I'm getting old, eccentric and philosophical)
_________________ https://m.youtube.com/user/1967runningman |
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ldascanio Full Member
Joined: 29 Oct 2005 Posts: 169 Location: Buenos Aires, Argentina
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Posted: Sat Mar 12, 2016 11:08 am Post subject: |
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GregC wrote: | michelkeijzers wrote: | GregC wrote: | jeremykeys wrote: | Simply the best peice of musical gear that I have ever owned bar none. Every day that I play it I'm blown away! I truly mean that. Every single day!
I'm just amazed that none of the other synth manufacturers have even tried to compete. By now you would have expected them to have but no. |
I think Korg got on the right architecture path with Oasys PCI and the Oasys keyboard, of course. From there, it was decisions to get the cost down, make improvements and allow it to evolve with its OS. I think we are fortunate to enjoy all the effort and planning by Korg. |
Same feeling here ... we always should thank the Oasys buyers to spend so much money on gear that is now considered the best 'all round' synth/workstation. |
well said. a BIG thanks to Oasys buyers. Without them,.... it would be a different story. |
You're welcome ☺
As a long term Oasys project follower and still keeping my Z1, Oasys and Kronos (I missed the PCI card) I can see how much they have advanced in these years not only in sounds but also in the underlaying architecture that opened the door to many more possibilities and much better playability. I think those endless possibilities are what still make Oasys and Kornos such amazing keyboards. You can find a way to do what you like most of the time.
But the Z1 with the many limitation it has still amaze me with the sound and as many others who owned this beast at that time still missing some models lost in the process as the brass and wind models... or the human voice model from the PCI card in the Kronos. For sure Kronos covers those sound families very well but knowing whar they did in the past I still have the feeling they could do it even better with the improved expresivity of the models.... who knows.. maybe a hybrid model based on samples like the piano in Kronos to have best of both worlds ☺
Rgds. _________________ Leo
OASYS 88 #000312
KRONOS 61 #003946
KORG Z1, ROLAND PK-5 |
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GregC Platinum Member
Joined: 15 May 2002 Posts: 9451 Location: Discovery Bay (San Francisco Bay Area)
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Posted: Sat Mar 12, 2016 1:06 pm Post subject: |
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runningman67 wrote: | You have......
An Orchestra
A synthesiser
A choir
A studio
Hours of hard slog with genuine hope of brilliance
A means of expression, fulfilment, imagination, expression
A chance to actually finish off and complete your journey
Every colour of sound from the ridiculous to the sublime
Effects that describe the universe
A friend a mistress a companion
A forum that connects people, all colours, creeds and sex
A steroid for your potential
It's genius, magnificent, beautiful, crazy, alive.
It is an historic accomplishment, so much for so little. Legendary
Keyboard that in the era of software music and prefabricated plastic
regurgitated, recycled convenience compositions, Kronos is a God,
Proud immortal and true.
(Yep I'm getting old, eccentric and philosophical)
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we all are, Lester ! Awesome post ! _________________ Kronos 88. MODX8
Achieve your musical dreams
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jeremykeys Platinum Member
Joined: 19 Jun 2011 Posts: 3092 Location: Toronto, Ontario, Canada
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Posted: Sat Mar 12, 2016 1:14 pm Post subject: |
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Old and senile? I resemble that remark!
Just last night I was in my bands' studio recording keyboard tracks. I only did piano and organ. One sound per song. The organ sound is one that I came up with using the CX-3 engine. I've been tweaking this one for quite a while now but I defy anybody to tell the difference between it and a real B-3.
Thank you Korg!
There really is nothing even close to the Kronos and I'm not sure if any other company can do it! _________________ If music is the food of love, play on and play loud!
Gear: Kronos 73, Triton Pro-X, Wavestation EX, Polysix, King Korg, Monotron and Monotron Duo, Minikorg, Moog Grandmother, 1 Roland U-20, Hammond M3, 4 acoustic and 6 electric guitars, 1 Ibanez 5 string bass, a bunch of microphones and other very cool toys, 1 wife and 3 cats! |
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aron Platinum Member
Joined: 27 Jan 2011 Posts: 1549 Location: Hawaii
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Posted: Sat Mar 12, 2016 6:33 pm Post subject: |
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Yes! I constantly hear people saying how the CX-3 engine is no good etc... and doesn't sound like a B3. Glad to hear that it can. _________________ Korg Kronos, RD-88, Yamaha VL1, Deep Mind 6, Korg Kross, author of unrealBook for iPad. |
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PCFREE Platinum Member
Joined: 02 Sep 2012 Posts: 523 Location: Just passing through...
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Posted: Sat Mar 12, 2016 8:07 pm Post subject: |
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runningman67 wrote: | You have......
An Orchestra
A synthesiser
A choir
A studio
Hours of hard slog with genuine hope of brilliance
A means of expression, fulfilment, imagination, expression
A chance to actually finish off and complete your journey
Every colour of sound from the ridiculous to the sublime
Effects that describe the universe
A friend a mistress a companion
A forum that connects people, all colours, creeds and sex
A steroid for your potential
It's genius, magnificent, beautiful, crazy, alive.
It is an historic accomplishment, so much for so little. Legendary
Keyboard that in the era of software music and prefabricated plastic
regurgitated, recycled convenience compositions, Kronos is a God,
Proud immortal and true.
(Yep I'm getting old, eccentric and philosophical)
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runningman67, your musical and philosophical contributions are always most welcome ! _________________ Kurzweil K2700, Korg Nautilus 61, Yamaha MODX6
....as we forgive those who synthesize against us!! |
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psionic311 Platinum Member
Joined: 14 Nov 2014 Posts: 1046 Location: Orlando, Florida USA
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Posted: Sun Mar 13, 2016 3:47 pm Post subject: |
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jeremykeys wrote: | Old and senile? I resemble that remark!
There really is nothing even close to the Kronos and I'm not sure if any other company can do it! |
I'm trying hard to fight off the old and senile by staying young at heart...
Just for the record, there *is* something that is close to the Kronos --
sample playback, sampler, FM engine, physical modeling engine, sequencer, arps, hard disk recording, 8 audio inputs, 4 audio outs, modulation matrix, 4 IFX and 2 MFX and EQ
That was my poor man's Oasys for a few years. But yes, the Kronos is unmatched having not only those features above, but also sample streaming, DX7 patch compatibility, extensive MIDI controller / MIDI master keyboard functionality, USB host... It'll take me another couple years to master Karma and upgrade its libraries, so the Kronos is good for another 5 years at least... |
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Timodeous
Joined: 15 Mar 2011 Posts: 16
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Posted: Thu Mar 17, 2016 10:32 pm Post subject: |
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I still have an original demo that consisted of my Yamaha EX-5, Korg Oasys-PCI (for drums) and guitar through a Roland VS2480. I actually was able to run the OasysPCI card(Win 95) and Nuendo 1.0(Win2000)... Thanks to WinME. Still love the drums. Not quite DFH, but the best at the time! |
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jeremykeys Platinum Member
Joined: 19 Jun 2011 Posts: 3092 Location: Toronto, Ontario, Canada
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Posted: Fri Mar 18, 2016 1:45 am Post subject: |
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I don't get to spend as much time writing music as I would like to, but I have found that since I've had my Kronos, writing is much more of a pleasure and just fooling around on my Kronos I am still almost 5 years later finding inspiring sounds.
Since I am also much more familiar with it, I am also much more capable of creating new sounds as well. I used to be a bit afraid but not any more! Now I'm fearless when it comes to creating new sounds! I just go for it! _________________ If music is the food of love, play on and play loud!
Gear: Kronos 73, Triton Pro-X, Wavestation EX, Polysix, King Korg, Monotron and Monotron Duo, Minikorg, Moog Grandmother, 1 Roland U-20, Hammond M3, 4 acoustic and 6 electric guitars, 1 Ibanez 5 string bass, a bunch of microphones and other very cool toys, 1 wife and 3 cats! |
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jmchiro
Joined: 25 Feb 2011 Posts: 44
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Posted: Fri Mar 18, 2016 2:11 am Post subject: |
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jeremykeys,
Would you be willing to share the organ patch you created?
Thanks in advance! |
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ExcelMusicStudio Junior Member
Joined: 22 Oct 2011 Posts: 58 Location: Brisbane QLD Australia
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Posted: Fri Mar 18, 2016 8:39 am Post subject: get to the bottom of it |
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I still haven't got to the bottom of my Kronos... it's programming is deep & wide...
My Korg M1 was completely transparent to me ... I could program that in my sleep ..
My Korg DW8000 was also very straight forward...
but 9 synth engines are way too much for me to conquer... _________________ imagination has NO LIMITS - http://www.youtube.com/user/excelmusicstudio
Songwriter , Lyricist , Music Producer
Korg Kronos 73 , Korg Wavestation SR , Korg M1Rex , Korg A2 Effects , Alesis D4 , Alesis DM5 , Alesis DMpro , Alesis QS4r , Passac Sentient 6 , Roland GP16 , Kurzweil K2000r , Creamware Pulsar , 37 guitars & basses , whacky sense of humour , glass of orange juice. |
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jeremykeys Platinum Member
Joined: 19 Jun 2011 Posts: 3092 Location: Toronto, Ontario, Canada
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Posted: Fri Mar 18, 2016 11:38 am Post subject: |
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jmchiro wrote: | jeremykeys,
Would you be willing to share the organ patch you created?
Thanks in advance! |
There's not much to it. I just started with a blank CX slot, called up the first four drawbars full out. Adjust the chorale to setting C-3. Sometimes I dial that one back to C-2. Amp gain about 75%. I'm not at my Kronos right now so I'm trying to remember. I beleive I used the older B-3 setting with lots of leakage. I also use the Leslie sim in the IFX as well as the one in the prog. I have them set exactly the same. There was a thread on the forum a few years ago that listed all the settings. I don't have any key click or anything else on. When I'm playing, I often play with the drawbars the way I would on a real Hammond.
I also have the EQ set fairly bright.
I know I've forgotten a few things but that pretty much the jist of it. _________________ If music is the food of love, play on and play loud!
Gear: Kronos 73, Triton Pro-X, Wavestation EX, Polysix, King Korg, Monotron and Monotron Duo, Minikorg, Moog Grandmother, 1 Roland U-20, Hammond M3, 4 acoustic and 6 electric guitars, 1 Ibanez 5 string bass, a bunch of microphones and other very cool toys, 1 wife and 3 cats! |
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jg:: Platinum Member
Joined: 14 Aug 2003 Posts: 685 Location: Melbourne, Australia
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Posted: Fri Mar 18, 2016 11:58 pm Post subject: |
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So, it doesn't use the "new" CX-3 model that was introduced a couple of years ago? |
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jeremykeys Platinum Member
Joined: 19 Jun 2011 Posts: 3092 Location: Toronto, Ontario, Canada
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Posted: Sat Mar 19, 2016 2:11 am Post subject: |
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Yes it does. I never really thought about it. I just made it for fun and then it turned out to be my favorite organ sound. I use the expression pedal a lot when I'm playing it live. I try to do everything that a person playing a real Hammond would do. I think this has more to do with the sound than anything, really. You have to remember that since the B-3 was invented, it's probably gone through multiple internal changes as parts became scarce. This is purely my theory by the way but I think it holds. As far as I've been able to find out, no 2 B-3's ever sounded exactly the same and some just sounded better than others.
I think it often came down to the player. Like any other instrument, violin for example, you have to "work" it. Move the draw bars, etc. mid song. _________________ If music is the food of love, play on and play loud!
Gear: Kronos 73, Triton Pro-X, Wavestation EX, Polysix, King Korg, Monotron and Monotron Duo, Minikorg, Moog Grandmother, 1 Roland U-20, Hammond M3, 4 acoustic and 6 electric guitars, 1 Ibanez 5 string bass, a bunch of microphones and other very cool toys, 1 wife and 3 cats! |
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