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MusicLive Full Member
Joined: 19 Feb 2010 Posts: 175 Location: Norfolk. England. UK
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Posted: Tue Oct 27, 2015 10:01 pm Post subject: Could this be set-up into Kronos |
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Could all these synth timbres be programmed to a Kronos to produce the sounds on the video clip here?
If so, who could do it, as it has me stumped.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zsQLNrMlbPk
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geoelectro Platinum Member
Joined: 14 Sep 2012 Posts: 1038 Location: Texas
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Posted: Tue Oct 27, 2015 10:43 pm Post subject: |
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I listened to about three minutes and didn't hear anything that couldn't be made in the Kronos. Much is straightforward basic 80's synth. Some sampling can augment and with all the engines available, it should be doable.
That said, copying synth sounds from a song is a lot of work. Separating the instruments and duplicating them is a real art. In a mostly synth arrangement like this one I can see many hours involved depending on how close to the original you want or need to get.
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MusicLive Full Member
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Posted: Tue Oct 27, 2015 11:14 pm Post subject: |
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Geoelectro,
You'll be bored sick listening to the whole track but there's a hell of lot going on.
JMJ must have taken a fair length of time to multi track it all, even with all the synths he had to hand back in the day.
I'd be very pleased to achieve all of these independent sounds and create this on a Kronos and then be able to play it, just for my own satisfaction.
Thanks for your input.
Regards,
MC |
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McHale Platinum Member
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Posted: Wed Oct 28, 2015 7:10 am Post subject: |
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MOST of those sounds can be achieved by taking factory sounds and tweaking them a little. The more time you put into it, the closer you can get but yes, all sounds in that video can be recreated quite faithfully on the Kronos. When you think about what gear JMJ had at the time, he was working with primarily analog gear so it was mainly saw, sin, square, etc. waves. Way back in the day, JMJ released a few patches for the Korg Triton that recreated some of the Oxygene sounds pretty well.
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MusicLive Full Member
Joined: 19 Feb 2010 Posts: 175 Location: Norfolk. England. UK
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Posted: Wed Oct 28, 2015 3:23 pm Post subject: |
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McHale,
Most people on here would probably think me nuts to bother with something so outdated.
It's the thought of being able to get the Kronos to produce this wall of 'noise' that interests me most and the challenge to try to program it to do that.
It looks like I'll be spending many hours fiddling around inside my Kronos for the coming winter months.
Thanks for pointing out what you have ... appreciated.
Regards,
MC |
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Bachus Platinum Member
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Posted: Wed Oct 28, 2015 4:49 pm Post subject: |
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MusicLive wrote: | McHale,
Most people on here would probably think me nuts to bother with something so outdated.
It's the thought of being able to get the Kronos to produce this wall of 'noise' that interests me most and the challenge to try to program it to do that.
It looks like I'll be spending many hours fiddling around inside my Kronos for the coming winter months.
Thanks for pointing out what you have ... appreciated.
Regards,
MC |
Outdated?
There are classics that never get outdated... |
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jones Full Member
Joined: 01 May 2014 Posts: 155 Location: Northern Maine .
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Posted: Thu Oct 29, 2015 1:49 am Post subject: |
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MusicLive wrote: | McHale,
Most people on here would probably think me nuts to bother with something so outdated.
It's the thought of being able to get the Kronos to produce this wall of 'noise' that interests me most and the challenge to try to program it to do that.
It looks like I'll be spending many hours fiddling around inside my Kronos for the coming winter months.
Thanks for pointing out what you have ... appreciated.
Regards,
MC |
You REALLY wanna download Dan Stesco's Jarre' combi pack for the Kronos. I think its free, or was when I got it.
Watch his rather instructional youtube video to see how he triggers each part and effect .... all on the kronos.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o0xI9RmUsnY
He just saved you 200 hrs of hair pulling tedium.
Jarre' has a walk about video tour of his studio, all the equipment he used to make oxygene filled a large area.
Kronos put it all in a box. |
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MusicLive Full Member
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Posted: Thu Oct 29, 2015 3:41 pm Post subject: |
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Bachus,
There's me thinking I'm the oldest most outdated member on this site and had imagined JMJ to be an old 'has been', like many of my old mates in rock.
Glad to know someone else likes his stuff.
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MC |
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MusicLive Full Member
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Posted: Thu Oct 29, 2015 3:50 pm Post subject: |
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Jones,
Thanks for that!!
I do have some of Dan's stuff and consider him to be a Friend, as I've had frequent contact with him and he knows who I am.
Dan has been working on this for some time and I'm sure he will crack it before I do. There's a lot of timbres to put together to re-create it all. But he's a very busy guy, so it will take a while.
I just thought some of you ultra clever people here may have already re-created it in it's full guise.
Regards,
MC |
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PCFREE Platinum Member
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Posted: Thu Oct 29, 2015 4:24 pm Post subject: |
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I look forward to hearing the result ! It would be interesting to hear how close the Kronos can get to this level of analog warmth !!!
I wish you all the best! It's a great tune !! _________________ Kurzweil K2700, Korg Nautilus 61, Yamaha MODX6
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MusicLive Full Member
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Posted: Thu Oct 29, 2015 5:15 pm Post subject: |
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PCFREE,
The Kronos can emulate the sounds of yesteryear and give the warmth of the
analog but it takes a while to tweak to achieve some of these older sounds to perfection.
Dan Stesco is an expert at it.
If you haven't heard Dan play, then have a look at his You Tube vids re JMJ.
This particular piece is difficult to emulate as there's so much going on when you listen closely.
I too will be happy to hear the finished sounds in my Kronos.
Regards,
MC |
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PCFREE Platinum Member
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Posted: Thu Oct 29, 2015 5:33 pm Post subject: |
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MusicLive wrote: | PCFREE,
The Kronos can emulate the sounds of yesteryear and give the warmth of the
analog but it takes a while to tweak to achieve some of these older sounds to perfection.
Dan Stesco is an expert at it.
If you haven't heard Dan play, then have a look at his You Tube vids re JMJ.
This particular piece is difficult to emulate as there's so much going on when you listen closely.
I too will be happy to hear the finished sounds in my Kronos.
Regards,
MC |
I'd love to have a listen! Could you send me a link, please? Thank you ! _________________ Kurzweil K2700, Korg Nautilus 61, Yamaha MODX6
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kronos4king
Joined: 16 Jun 2013 Posts: 18
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Posted: Thu Oct 29, 2015 7:59 pm Post subject: Re: Could this be set-up into Kronos |
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MusicLive wrote: | Could all these synth timbres be programmed to a Kronos to produce the sounds on the video clip here?
If so, who could do it, as it has me stumped.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zsQLNrMlbPk
Regards,
MC |
The Alesis Fusion does a good job of this. It has a very warm sound. I find the Kronos very crisp and a bit clinical.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KMV4PnsO4Vk |
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PCFREE Platinum Member
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Posted: Thu Oct 29, 2015 8:28 pm Post subject: |
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I've listened to Dan's version and the Alesis fusion. They're both impressive! _________________ Kurzweil K2700, Korg Nautilus 61, Yamaha MODX6
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MusicLive Full Member
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Posted: Thu Oct 29, 2015 8:48 pm Post subject: |
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Kronos4king,
You're playing Oxygene 4 - not Equinoxe pts 5,6,7...
different timbres.
Nevertheless it's a good sound from the Alesis.
Can't think the Kronos is 'Clinical' though.
Regards,
MC |
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