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ca27
Joined: 03 Sep 2013 Posts: 31 Location: Philippines
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Posted: Fri Sep 13, 2013 3:04 am Post subject: Polyphony |
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Less polypony on the Kross as what I've heard.
Would it be a big deal tho? |
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tommymandel Senior Member
Joined: 29 Apr 2013 Posts: 272 Location: NYC
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Posted: Fri Sep 13, 2013 3:16 am Post subject: |
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Hasn't bothered me.
Here's a video of an in-store at Sam Ash, NYC yesterday. I didn't even plug it in, just batteries. I was going thru some nice amps though...
hope this link works:
https://www.facebook.com/video/embed?video_id=10151581156846372" width="1280" height="720" |
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ca27
Joined: 03 Sep 2013 Posts: 31 Location: Philippines
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Posted: Fri Sep 13, 2013 7:18 am Post subject: |
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I'd love to see the video but can't. Facebook privacy stuff on your account lol.
Well would there some realistic times that the polyphony limit would be reached?
Absolutely love the Kross by the looks alone. |
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Bald Eagle Platinum Member
Joined: 25 Jan 2009 Posts: 2278 Location: Long Island, NY
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Posted: Fri Sep 13, 2013 3:25 pm Post subject: |
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The Kross has 80 voices vs Krome's 120 voices. A double program with cross faded oscillators can use 4 voices. Put a few programs like that into a combi and you run out of oscillators quickly.
When I was playing in the store I didn't notice any dropped notes just using factory settings. So it all depends on your needs if the polyphony will be an issue or not. You just can't do quite as much as you can with a Krome or Kronos but you can't expect to for that price. |
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tommymandel Senior Member
Joined: 29 Apr 2013 Posts: 272 Location: NYC
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Posted: Fri Sep 13, 2013 5:34 pm Post subject: |
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Agree with Bald Eagle. Plus you can put up to 16 Programs in a Combi, so, in theory, at least, there's always that possibility of running out. Or in a busy Sequence. I just haven't experienced it. Sorry about the fb video. No big loss though,LOL. |
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ca27
Joined: 03 Sep 2013 Posts: 31 Location: Philippines
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Posted: Sat Sep 14, 2013 7:53 am Post subject: |
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Yeah. So it seems like you would likely run out if the machine gets real busy.
However during "normal" times, you're still away from threshold, right?
Maybe someone can post his/her experience of running out of oscillators lol. Or a demo perhaps. |
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Bald Eagle Platinum Member
Joined: 25 Jan 2009 Posts: 2278 Location: Long Island, NY
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Posted: Sat Sep 14, 2013 1:44 pm Post subject: |
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It all depends what you consider to be "normal times". Leads and basic pads are not really an issue. Complex sequences can be a problem.
You have to consider what you be using the board for and then you can better know how the polyphony limit will affect you personally. |
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ca27
Joined: 03 Sep 2013 Posts: 31 Location: Philippines
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Posted: Sun Sep 15, 2013 11:53 am Post subject: |
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I guess I would use it to arrange or compose a non complex songs. Perhaps a simple band.
On "Normal times" kind of meant creating a non complex song or like the usual songs we hear. |
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tommymandel Senior Member
Joined: 29 Apr 2013 Posts: 272 Location: NYC
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Posted: Sun Sep 15, 2013 3:26 pm Post subject: |
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I can never do this, but the 'limited' polyphony could make someone really polish their arrangement, perfect it, so that the sequence has no parts that 'cover' other parts, you know: play on top of them - so that every note can be heard. I usually just go nuts layering all the coool sounds on top of each other. It ends up sounding good, but a little like a soup with everything thrown into it! But a top arranger will 'make every note count.'
Knowing we only have '80 voices' to play with (ok, with double sounds, less) could be a good thing for our arranging chops. |
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ca27
Joined: 03 Sep 2013 Posts: 31 Location: Philippines
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Posted: Mon Sep 16, 2013 12:25 am Post subject: |
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tommymandel wrote: | I can never do this, but the 'limited' polyphony could make someone really polish their arrangement, perfect it, so that the sequence has no parts that 'cover' other parts, you know: play on top of them - so that every note can be heard. I usually just go nuts layering all the coool sounds on top of each other. It ends up sounding good, but a little like a soup with everything thrown into it! But a top arranger will 'make every note count.'
Knowing we only have '80 voices' to play with (ok, with double sounds, less) could be a good thing for our arranging chops. |
A really nice point right there. I did the same thing with my very first arrangement too. Instruments should play as one and make way for each other. |
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studio99 Full Member
Joined: 25 Jun 2013 Posts: 103
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Posted: Mon Sep 16, 2013 1:11 am Post subject: |
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Sometimes less is more!
Pat |
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ca27
Joined: 03 Sep 2013 Posts: 31 Location: Philippines
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Posted: Wed Sep 18, 2013 10:05 am Post subject: |
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Yep. Definitely would go for the Kross this time. I really like its physical features. Just portable as it can be. |
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ca27
Joined: 03 Sep 2013 Posts: 31 Location: Philippines
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Posted: Fri Oct 25, 2013 9:20 pm Post subject: |
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And finally, I just got my Kross-61 today and its home. Definitely enjoying it. No nothing bad about the lesser polyphony that I can tell yet
Thanks for all your comments |
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