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[Korglee]

The screen. In sequencer mode. Hard to read, hard to touch what I want to touch accurately and consistently. That's all. I'd have one by now if not for the screen.

[Davidb]

[mathieumaes]

It's a common feat with people. They will generally speaking post on the internet only when they're complainting. Not much satisfied people take the time to post a review or comment...

This is why I don't give much attention to reviews in general. Look up any random construction worker in Google, and you'll find some disturbing complaints no matter what!
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[RonF]

[michelkeijzers]

I agree to Ron's post above. I wish all my previous Korgs had such a detailed display.
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[Kontrol49]

I don't know why people have such a hang up over the screens display...

It's a far cry from the days of the 2 line LCDs and we managed back in the days of the M1!!!!!!

I've got an Oasys and several other Smaller LCD equipped synths,the Kronos screen when I first saw one in person was weird seeing essentially a more cramped version of the Oasys,but it looked no problem after your eyes get used to it,why do so many compare it to the Oasys????how many of you use them side by side????

From my standpoint the only thing I would miss is the ability to angle it,but that has its downfalls when your mounting the Oasys on an Apex stand with another synth above it...Especially with the depth of the Oasys case dimensions,personally think the Korg engineers did a little bit of homework with this Kronos design,don't think it was about keeping costs down using a fixed screen method I reckon there's a little bit more thought gone into its practicalities for its viewing angles,this is where the Kronos wins even if the screen isn't as endowed

[Korglee]

Truth be told, I'd demo the Kronos in seq.mode, become frustrated with the touchscreen after about ten minutes, leave the store and then come back again week after week repeating the same process. Maybe I should just take a leap of faith. Thanks for your responses.

[zzzxtreme]

M1's UI is excellent, despite only being 2 line LCD.

Reason I didn't buy kronos, cause my 01/w , wavestation still sounds super ! too much sentimental value.

If, I don't have any keyboards and those old synths don't exist anymore, and I need one keyboard, I'd get the yamaha motif XF6, I simply love the sound and construction better, despite knowing kronos' possibilites/capabilities.

A kronos in a desktop module, now that I would buy now, to use with my keyboards

[Bachus]

The reason i didn't get one? You can only spend money once.

[Vlad_77]

All this whining about the display is simply ludicrous. I have read the same garbage about Kurzweils in the Roland forums. I would rather have powerful music making capabilities and possibilities than a huge screen. Korg cut some costs but gave us more. I am thankful that mere mortals such as myself can own such a powerful instrument. I could not afford OASYS when it debuted so the KRONOS is a blessing. As for large screens and other cosmetic bells and whistles, Roland gave you that in the Fantom G then virtually orphaned it roughly a year after release. Roland has no presence on Roland Clan. Korg has presence here and Kurzweil has presence at Cunka.com. Korg has provided a major update and Kurzweil STILL updates the now out of production PC3 and PC3x with new enhancements. If the price of a large screen is lack of manufacturer support, then I will not pay that price.

My Fantom X and XV-88 are still musical beasts and BOTH have screens that are minuscule in comparison to the Kronos. But I make music, not watch baseball on my musical instruments. If you NEED a large screen because your vision is very poor, then that is a valid point. But if you need a big screen because the tech is there, ask yourself if that tech is in any way connected to creating music all else being equal (read not profoundly visually impaired).

How many people here who have complained in this thread once raved about the displays of their M1s, ESQ's, or [insert workstation name here] are now complaining about a display that is IMAX in comparison? It's OK to hate/dislike/have indifference to an instrument, but rather than create threads like these, make a stronger statement by buying an instrument from another manufacturer. But bear in mind that like all human made things, not one thing can do it all; there are always tradeoffs and there always will be.

Threads like these make me admire drummers, guitarists, and bassists even more because they don't whine half as much as keyboard players. UGHHHH
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[michelkeijzers]

Probably in like 10-20 years from now, you can probably take a screen of any size and select what you want to see on it with wireless video connection, you probably can switch to the newest Korg workstation output to the refrigerator output to the house domotica output.

Until that time we have to use what is inside the Kronos or next generation synths and that is always a tradeoff between comfortability and price.
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[iixorbiusii]

[neotechtonics]

theres a few reasons i never considered it:

1. price
2. I have enough gear already that I still have to master
3. would be totally wasted on my lacking talents
4. I don't like keyboards
5. space constraints
6. I prefer a more modular approach to my setups (smaller specialised gear) so I can chop and change and save space when necessary
7. price

not denying its awesome ability... just not for me
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[techman09]

I did an extensive comparison of the Motif XF6 and the Kronos 61 Key. I LOATHE the keybed on the Kronos compared to the Motif XF. Also, spent 3 hours at GC comparing sounds and workflow, and the Motif XF just worked better for me. I am addicted to the Motif guitars and now that I own one, there is nothing like the Cubase integration with the VST editor. I love being able to save my entire pattern settings with my software DAW mix. At the end of the day, if I only owned the Motif XF I would have chosen it over the Kronos, but I also have soft synths like Omnisphere, Synthogy, Alchemy, ect, so there was just no need for it.

[Slovenec]

Why I haven't bought the 'Kronos Classic' and am waiting for the 'Kronos Studio' or even 'Kronos Extreme' to be released!

1). Underwhelming rompler programs in a number of crucial areas despite having a multi GB waveform ROM! Whilst those acoustic pianos and multi sampled drum kits sure sound nice, the strings, acoustic and electric guitars and basses, harpsichord, brass and winds are a distinct dissappointment considering my Kurzweils PC361's meazley 64MB ROM has IMHO superior orchestral sounds. Heck even my 1995 Trinity Plus with it's 24MB waveform rom had better guitar and strings programs than this 2012 top of the line workstation!!!!

2). Dumbing down of sequencer features from those on the M3 Xpanded! I won't even mention what's missing as it's been covered extensively in many of the above posts!

3). A supposed 'live performance' orientated keyboard shouldn't take 2.5 minutes to boot up!!!!!!!!!!!! My Kurzweil PC361 does so in under 30 seconds as do all my other keyboards!

4). Whilst I love to play weighted action keyboards, I wanted a 73 key unweighted instrument (like the M3 73) to take out for live gigging. The 73 key weighted version is simply too heavy and I can do without a weighted action when playing with my band.

5). A 16 track audio recorder with 1990s functions...... no time stretching or high quality pitch shifting, no takes or comping of tracks amongst many other needless limitations.

6). Korg promised us a dedicated plug in style editor!!!! I was hoping that the Kronos would live happily as a hardware 'plug in' inisde both Logic and Protools LE. Currently, it seems that Korg have more or less abandoned the editor and I HATE vaporware!!!!!!!!!!

I've been a keen user of Korg equipment since 1990 when I bought my T3EX! I still own and love that keyboard as well as an O1WFD. I've owned Trinity Plus, Wavestation AD, Wavestation SR, fully expanded Triton Classic, Z1 18 voice, TR Rack, DW8000 and even a humble DDM110 drum machine. I learn't a lot of my synth chops on a Poly 61! Therefore, I was expecting the Kronos to have the Oasys' sequencer limitations ironed out and that Korg would have released that editor! I'll consider supporting Korg again once they listen to their loyal users and release new workstations that don't lack features present in the previous model. I have a lot of respect for Korg and don't want to be seen as a Korg basher but honestly, the Kronos limitations (despite it being a truly powerful beast of a synthesiser) has turned me off buying one and I'll continue to stick with my Kurzweil PC361, Ensoniq TS12, Korg T3EX, Korg O1WFD and Generalmusic PRP800 for now. I'll reassess things once Korg update the Kronos or bring out something that well and truly includes the features that have been widely requested since it's release nearly a year and a half ago.
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